Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft • Hacker News Board

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by goatinaboat » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 7:17 PM UTC

chris_wot wrote: post #30

discreditable wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And God help them if they somehow have a work/school and personal Microsoft account and don't remember which one they used.

The company I now work for has decided to separate out admin accounts in Windows. Fair enough, except it's not like a Unix system where you can quickly context switch. Trying to administer Office 365 with two separate Office 365 accounts is an absolutely nightmare!

The company I now work for has decided to separate out admin accounts in Windows

Do they know that doesn’t work?

If you do a run-as then you are as vulnerable to PTH as you would be if you just logged in with the admin account anyway... you need to go full PAW these days.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by kweinber » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 7:18 PM UTC

vezycash wrote: post #36

dade_ wrote: post #22

I am still awe at how bad MS is at making Windows apps. To Do is a poster child. I think Visio uses less RAM, is extremely laggy, slow to load, crashes many times a week and has awful layout for pen input.

>I am still awe at how bad MS is at making Windows apps. They've gotten better at being bad. Before, apps crashed but at least they were full featured, had two or three ways of doing the same thing - so you could get shit done. Now, stuff from MS is generally slower, still crash prone, looks fancy but is bare-boned, updates remove the few useful stuff and replace em with half baked alternatives or nothing.

Yesterday HN had a front-page article about how making your app do less was the key to making it more useful.

This is a meme I’ve never understood.... how is it more “useful” if it is less “full of stuff to use”. When people equate streamlining experience with feature removal you get this kind of frustration.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by bit_4l » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 7:18 PM UTC

It sucks seeing MS kills Wunderlist. I’m always a huge fan of it. Simple, intuitive.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by momokoko » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 7:23 PM UTC

wpdev_63 wrote: post #46

It blows my mind that todo list app can be worth $200 million... Then again a chat app is now worth several billion... I don't have any idea of how this works.

It is not a chat app. Its a searchable document and knowledge database. Same goes for note taking apps. Same as GMail. What makes these ultimately valuable(and sticky) to companies is that once they get some use, they become essential searchable databases.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by kaushikt » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 7:24 PM UTC

grumpy8 wrote: post #49

wpdev_63 wrote: post #46

It blows my mind that todo list app can be worth $200 million... Then again a chat app is now worth several billion... I don't have any idea of how this works.

It's far from accurate, but an easy way to think about it is: 200 000 000 users * $1.

They had 200,000,000 users?

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by nikhilbagadia » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 7:25 PM UTC

kaushikt wrote: post #55

grumpy8 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's far from accurate, but an easy way to think about it is: 200 000 000 users * $1.

They had 200,000,000 users?

They didn’t at the tome of selling it to Microsoft.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by nikhilbagadia » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 7:28 PM UTC

hobofan wrote: post #2

Given how unrealistic reviving Wunderlist is (almost everyone of the original employees is working on other things inside Microsoft or has left), this ought to be a PR stunt, right? He might as well start from scratch at this point.

I think he is quite focused on Pitch at the moment to start from scratch.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by Barrin92 » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 7:31 PM UTC

noego wrote: post #6

Microsoft has a directly competing product, so I don't see why they would ever want to sell Wunderlust. They would essentially be creating their own competitor, in return for a fraction of the money they had paid to acquire Wunderlist earlier.

then again I doubt that the microsoft empire stands or falls with a to-do list app and it might just be good PR to sell it back instead of letting a well-liked product rot given that they're on an alleged "we love the community" campaign now.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by adrusi » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 7:31 PM UTC

gilrain wrote: post #41

phailhaus wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's not trying to keep the money, the headline says it right there: "founder wants to buy his app back." Of course you can buy back something that you sold. They just don't have to sell it to you.

"Backsies" is reversing the original deal, not just half. This founder is asking for backsies by definition.

Ok but you can totally do what he's doing. There's some price that would get Microsoft to sell Wunderlist, and if he's willing to pay that much then he will get Wunderlist back. If that's "backsies" then you can absolutely backsies as much as you want.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by woadwarrior01 » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 7:31 PM UTC

wpdev_63 wrote: post #46

It blows my mind that todo list app can be worth $200 million... Then again a chat app is now worth several billion... I don't have any idea of how this works.

It isn't the chat app, it's the perpetual access to the contacts list on the phones of all its users that is worth billions.