Reminded me of KeyNote NF [1]. Very reliable, super small, keyboard shortcut friendly, supports images and cross links has everything I need for organizing my data except data sync and that its windows only.
Show HN: I made a mind map tool meant for large, detailed node hierarchies
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Re: Show HN: I made a mind map tool meant for large, detailed node hierarchies
#42I have to reply just because this is so bizarre. Just last night I had been conceptualising a product just like this in my head... right down to the “viewer” nodes which are a representation of their children. However I was thinking that instead of having a rich text node you would have a viewer node and each paragraph, heading could be its own node.
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#43I tend to believe people naturally think in graphical structures, not trees. It's sort of an impedance mismatch though because our physical world is tree based - you can't put an object in more than one container. So we're continually struggling to transition back and forth, to the point that we unnaturally try to force our thoughts into tree structures like outliners.
Exactly this. Also most information of any complexity has multiple “categories” it could fall into. What you actually want is a network graph of concepts and notes. This will let you see relationships.
Trilium Notes[0] allows that. In fact I'm surprised that it's not mentioned here, because when I discovered it (via HN IIRC), it seemed to me that Trilium had already implemented everything I could have ever thought of for a note taking/personal knowledge management tool, and more.
Re: Show HN: I made a mind map tool meant for large, detailed node hierarchies
#44I have to reply just because this is so bizarre. Just last night I had been conceptualising a product just like this in my head... right down to the “viewer” nodes which are a representation of their children. However I was thinking that instead of having a rich text node you would have a viewer node and each paragraph, heading could be its own node.
Great minds think alike. Let's work on it together. Give me some feedback on what you'd like to see. Thanks mate.
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#45Fun! I started building my own Workflowy replacement too, mostly because I got tired of not being able to extend it, I can only export my data. My idea is to not stop at 'basic' data types, but to provide a pluggable architecture to code in. Godspeed to you good sir.
Yup. We're on to it. God speed to you too!
Re: Show HN: I made a mind map tool meant for large, detailed node hierarchies
#46I tend to believe people naturally think in graphical structures, not trees. It's sort of an impedance mismatch though because our physical world is tree based - you can't put an object in more than one container. So we're continually struggling to transition back and forth, to the point that we unnaturally try to force our thoughts into tree structures like outliners.
Exactly this. Also most information of any complexity has multiple “categories” it could fall into. What you actually want is a network graph of concepts and notes. This will let you see relationships.
100% correct. It pains me but restricting to a tree was a compromise I wanted to make. Why? Because visualising a graph in a concise way is difficult. The point of jumproot is to have very broad and deep document structures and visual graphs simply don't allow it (to my standards anyway).
I'm always on the lookout for a widget that allows me to display a large graph in a very dense way. Please let me know if you come across one.
Re: Show HN: I made a mind map tool meant for large, detailed node hierarchies
#47I'm still looking for a good replacement for Dynalist, which is not free software (important because such data/workflow is too important to be at the mercy of a third party). Extra structure would be a nice addition, but without the source code I don't think this will do.
This is a very good point. Does it help that one can export his/her tree to a very readable JSON file? From that perspective, the data is not locked to jumproot.
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#48Re: Show HN: I made a mind map tool meant for large, detailed node hierarchies
#49The Zettelkasten method and The Archive allow you to link to other ideas/notes. It takes a bit more effort than I’ve given it, but it looks promising. They have a pretty active forum with a lot of good ideas for using it. The method can also be used in other apps such as nvAlt, Sublime Text, and Notion (I believe).
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#50I miss "The Brain", a mind map tool from the late 1990s, beginning of 2000s. The cool thing was that you could link an object (called "idea") to any other object regardless of it being a parent, child, part or not of the same tree structure.
This Brain? https://www.thebrain.com/
Yes! Thanks for sharing.