Joi Ito Resigns from M.I.T. Media Lab After Outcry over Jeffrey Epstein Ties

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Sep 07, 2019, 9:57 PM UTC

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> Sorry, but a 60-something "finance" guy with an entourage of teen models doesn't add up. The only problematic thing here is the age of those models. Otherwise, rich people like that are often surrounded with girls of questionable morals and intentions, who do stuff and in return get stuff (some would call it prostitution, some would imply that prostitution had an agreement done in advance...). In some poorer countr…

Yes, in places where there is an extreme power imbalance, with few employment opportunities for the disadvantaged, and no morals or accountability among elites, all manner of scummy things happen. We should strive to ameliorate the conditions in the world that make this happen, so that young women can aspire to being scientists or doctors or businesswomen, instead of some corrupt asshole’s decorative servants.

Post by coldtea » Sat, Sep 07, 2019, 9:57 PM UTC

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Good. Here’s a particularly damning passage from Ronan Farrow’s New Yorker article [1]: > According to Swenson, Ito had informed Cohen that Epstein “never goes into any room without his two female ‘assistants,’ ” whom he wanted to bring to the meeting at the Media Lab. Swenson objected to this, too, and it was decided that the assistants would be allowed to accompany Epstein but would wait outside the meeting room. >…

Sorry, I don't get it. Somebody having assistants who look like models and are from Eastern Europe is suspicious of trafficking women? How? Why? I have heard about Epstein, obviously with hindsight all sorts of things he did can be seen in a new light. I just don't understand what is so damning about the passage above. Would somebody who is trafficking women really take them everywhere he goes? I thought it would be…

Post by oh_sigh » Sat, Sep 07, 2019, 9:58 PM UTC

ngold wrote: post #129

testis321 wrote: post #64

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> Sorry, but a 60-something "finance" guy with an entourage of teen models doesn't add up. The only problematic thing here is the age of those models. Otherwise, rich people like that are often surrounded with girls of questionable morals and intentions, who do stuff and in return get stuff (some would call it prostitution, some would imply that prostitution had an agreement done in advance...). In some poorer countr…

I think the lesson here is, leave your sex trafficked models at home when conducting business. It is telling how common this must have been for the thousands of years before the internet. What was Charlemagnes wife, like 13 when she started getting pregnant?

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Sep 07, 2019, 10:00 PM UTC

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Those in glass houses... “They were models. Eastern European, definitely,” she told me. Among the lab’s staff, she said, “all of us women made it a point to be super nice to them. We literally had a conversation about how, on the off chance that they’re not there by choice, we could maybe help them.” And what did these people go home and start doing for Eastern European models since then? I find this pretty condescen…

Well America currently runs the biggest outrage factories in the world. Don't expect the output to reduce anytime soon. The Attention Economy is still scaling up.

Post by breck » Sat, Sep 07, 2019, 10:01 PM UTC

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Gotcha, I don't know the details of the allegations, and whether it was sex slavery or not. I was just giving another data point with a somewhat contrarian view. Thanks for sharing. One nit about the OP, is when any press outlet reports this as a "suicide". At the very least, this should be reported as an "assisted suicide". My infant can't poop without us having video evidence. The odds of this being an individual a…

Here's a thought: Don't rush in to give "contrarian views" on things you don't know about. That does not help anyone at all.