It's a good effort by ISRO and it's scientist. Just can't understand why so many countries reinventing the wheels. Space missions should be multi-country efforts continuously as it belongs to all. We should not extend our tribal nationalistic thinking to space. Best scientist can be in any nation and more diverse the group and experience the better chances of success. I know I am just dreaming, but hopefully we can c…
India Loses Contact with Probe Just as It Prepares to Land on Moon
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#152https://twitter.com/dsn_status/status/1170391223040954368
DSS 54 carrier lock on Chandrayaan-2 Lander Frequency: 2.2846GHz Signal strength: -143dBm IDLE OFF 1 TURBO
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t disagree with that concept, but note that a lot of international cooperation that exists presently doesn’t help countries like India develop their own technology. Putting Indian astronauts or experiments on American space missions, for example. Taking their own shot at going to the moon, independent of US efforts, is an important step forward for India.
That current cooperation may not be geared towards knowledge transfer doesn't mean it couldn't be. For example the US helped Great Britain extensively in the 60's and 70's on the space front and other areas, not to the extent that the UK was unable to do it themselves but to successfully boot strap their efforts. There's other examples too: Despite a chilly relationship and very different values, the US and Russia ha…
The problem is there is a big crossover between space tech and missile tech, so you have to see that other country as a very close ally to start that kind of tech transfer.
>There's other examples too: Despite a chilly relationship and very different values, the US and Russia have worked together for two decades on the ISS. The world is littered with current projects or their results that involved significant international cooperation and shared expertise.
All tech they both already had.
> Practically no country has independently built all of the technology that it both uses, fully understands, and can now produce on its own.
That isn't an argument for choosing to transfer a particular technology to a particular country.
>What we're really talking about here is teaching-- teaching another country how to do something. I don't need how teaching necessarily disadvantages the student country. It doesn't replace their own initiative to learn and internalize the material, but it does bootstrap the process.
It makes that tech much more easily spread in an age where the west is already worrying about North Korea/Iran/etc's long range missile programs (which they are collaborating on!, point you, but thats a reason why not to share technology willy nilly, point me).
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#154Kudos to India for even trying. While they are trying to put a probe on the moon, we have a President going through dementia arguing about a 2 week old weather forecast.
[1] https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/09/05/donald-tr...
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#155Kudos to India for even trying. While they are trying to put a probe on the moon, we have a President going through dementia arguing about a 2 week old weather forecast.
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#156I read that the maximum experiments are in the orbiter so this is a successful mission. The only thing for which it 'failed' was to let the ruling class do chest thumping by saying 'we are the fourth country to land a rover'. The ruling party had planned a great celebration today for it's 100 days in office, a date coinciding when the rover would land! They wanted to milk it for their nationalistic purposes while the…
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#157As usual for India attempts at greatness are usurped by incompetence! So common in this country. So much corruption. So much complacency. So much waste.
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#158It remained me this gif https://www.jokejive.com/images/jokejive/4d/4d735fbf33e893db...
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
While they are trying to put a probe on the moon?? We sent actual people there 50 years ago! And they did not crash on the moon. What do these people all have in common? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_walked... They are all American.
Came at a Yuuuuge price. The Appllo program claimed several lives even before the first probe launch. Recommend watching “The First Man” for accurate portrayal. Also the difference in budget between the NASA program and ISRO program is Apples one quarter earnings. Just saying
It's all relative, imagine if Indian poor population were as well off as American poor population what incentives will others have to study so much and work on space mission? Higher quality life at the bottom is what makes it more expensive to hire better talent. It's not a bad thing.
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#160I'm for space programs, but India is one of the poorest countries on earth, and spending that kind of money on social programs would actually have an impact on it's population. And then it looks like it failed on top of that, which is honestly not surprising, since space programs are so sensitive to minor quality issues and quality is the hardest thing for a 3rd world country. If I was living in India and struggling…
This one is a classic flamewar tangent that has happened countless times, leads nowhere good, and is quite off topic.