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Re: Apple Music Web Client

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seems they're using Ember.js . Reason I love spotify so much is that it's available on the web, no need to be downloading native apps everywhere. Always bet on the web. also good to see, another web property using Ember. As a react dev, competition is healthy

Does any one know if they are still using Ruby Rails for Apple Music's backend?

For https://tools.applemusic.com/ yes. Not sure about https://beta.music.apple.com/

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Because streaming: - is available almost anywhere: your phone, your car, your smart waffle maker. - leads to much better music discovery through curated playlists, “discover weekly”s, radio stations based on songs/artists/genres - you can instantly share your music and music tastes with friends, leading to even more music discovery - many more other minor things (like creating playlists for parties etc.)

Streaming isn’t available where there’s no internet connection, unless you just happen to have cached what you’re looking for. Whereas my entire music collection is available any time. I also heavily dispute that Spotify, Apple, etc lead to better search or discovery.

> Whereas my entire music collection is available any time.

You carry your “easily accessible cloud storage” everywhere with you?

> I also heavily dispute that Spotify, Apple, etc lead to better search or discovery.

You don’t “dispute”. You “firmly believe”. As others already pointed out: I’d never have discovered as much music within my music tastes as I’ve done with Spotify.

There’s no chance in hell I could’ve stumbled on some indie band that is US-only while leaving in Sweden.

There are Swedish bands which are suddenly popular in Brasil and they go there on tours, which they never would’ve done without Spotify.

Etc. etc.

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I would have never discovered 99% of the music I listen to if I didn't use Spotify. There are pros/cons to both sides of this argument. Many artists would not have a music career if it weren't for platforms like Spotify (mainly Spotify). Spotify put their music in people's ears. Spotify made people fans and now those fans buy tickets and go to their shows, so these bands are able to tour. There are pros/cons to both…

> “I would have never discovered 99% of the music I listen to if I didn't use Spotify.” Can you take a step back and recognize this is weird and pathological. Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources. If a for-profit platform interested in extracting as much money from you as they can (let alone minimize their costs paid to artists) is responsible for 99% of what you believe you are…

> Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources

Why do you assume streaming replaces all that? Streaming services immensely complement all that.

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If you have a big collection of obscure/foreign music (video game music is a great example), then nothing beats Apple Music + iCloud Music Library and iTunes match. You can use iTunes match to provide cloud-based high quality versions for music ripped from your CDs (or collected during your teenage Napster years). Even better, being able to mix content from your iCloud Music Library and streamable content from Apple…

Does it touch my original files in any way? I have a huge selection of rare and obscure music not available via iTunes or any streaming service. Obviously I don't want any service to touch, modify or replace these or any of my more popular release. I'm wary about auto matching. Should I be?

Apple Music without iTunes Match will upload it to iCloud and will make it available on your other devices. IIRC it'll convert it to 256 kbps AAC

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Streaming isn’t available where there’s no internet connection, unless you just happen to have cached what you’re looking for. Whereas my entire music collection is available any time. I also heavily dispute that Spotify, Apple, etc lead to better search or discovery.

> Whereas my entire music collection is available any time. You carry your “easily accessible cloud storage” everywhere with you? > I also heavily dispute that Spotify, Apple, etc lead to better search or discovery. You don’t “dispute”. You “firmly believe”. As others already pointed out: I’d never have discovered as much music within my music tastes as I’ve done with Spotify. There’s no chance in hell I could’ve stu…

> “You carry your “easily accessible cloud storage” everywhere with you?”

Huh? I mean, first of all yes, I do. I have my whole music library in Dropbox, but that’s not related to what I’m saying.

I have my whole music library already cached on my phone, tablet, laptop, etc., and so can listen without an internet connection. This is in VLC, not any cloud storage (I just use that for backups only).

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> “I would have never discovered 99% of the music I listen to if I didn't use Spotify.” Can you take a step back and recognize this is weird and pathological. Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources. If a for-profit platform interested in extracting as much money from you as they can (let alone minimize their costs paid to artists) is responsible for 99% of what you believe you are…

> Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources Why do you assume streaming replaces all that? Streaming services immensely complement all that.

The comment above specifically said 99% of the music they listen to was discovered by Spotify. That is replacing, not complementing. This is also the same model I see in friends or colleagues who use Spotify: it is their sole source of music or music recommendation.

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This is why Little Snitch is fantastic.

Especially on the phone where most people use Spotify. Oh wait...

Tell Apple, not me. I’d have written it myself already if such a thing were possible. Special VPNs can do this, or you can just carry a travel router, 4g modem, and usb battery pack velcroed to your ankle, and connect to it via WiFi, so that you can blackhole things via DNS or iptables.

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Does it touch my original files in any way? I have a huge selection of rare and obscure music not available via iTunes or any streaming service. Obviously I don't want any service to touch, modify or replace these or any of my more popular release. I'm wary about auto matching. Should I be?

Apple Music without iTunes Match will upload it to iCloud and will make it available on your other devices. IIRC it'll convert it to 256 kbps AAC

Lossless files are stored as 256kbps AAC in their cloud. I believe lossy MP3s and AACs are uploaded as-is. (I'm glad that Apple is aware that transcoding is generally a bad thing.)

iTunes also doesn't upload files that don't have a minimum bitrate of 96kbps [1].

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203564

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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> “I would have never discovered 99% of the music I listen to if I didn't use Spotify.” Can you take a step back and recognize this is weird and pathological. Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources. If a for-profit platform interested in extracting as much money from you as they can (let alone minimize their costs paid to artists) is responsible for 99% of what you believe you are…

> Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources Why do you assume streaming replaces all that? Streaming services immensely complement all that.

Exactly. Spotify and Youtube links enable sharing music easily among friends. Friends send me messages "hey check out this" accompanied by a link directly to spotify. If we were still in the tape/CD age, this wouldn't be as easily possible.

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> Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources Why do you assume streaming replaces all that? Streaming services immensely complement all that.

The comment above specifically said 99% of the music they listen to was discovered by Spotify. That is replacing, not complementing. This is also the same model I see in friends or colleagues who use Spotify: it is their sole source of music or music recommendation.

I suppose their recommendation quality only goes up the more you use the platform. It is a damn good recommender. From Discover Weekly to similar features like "Artist/Song/Playlist Radio" that continue playing similar music after your playlist/album ends... the Spotify recommendation systems are probably the most successful, enhancing implementation of ML I can recall seeing in the wild. Certainly much better than YouTube which for months has been begging me to watch this "Pete Davidson Got Stuck Paying for Kid Cudi's Birthday Dinner..." video (I'm not a fan of either of those guys).

Maybe you should give it a try. Certainly can't hurt.

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