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Re: Bayesian stats book banned in China

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I remember when I was taking an entry-level Economics course in China. We were using Paul Samuelson's classic textbook “Economics”. The English version mentioned China in some not-so-pretty examples. Apparently the translated Chinese version replaced “China” with a generic “One country”.

Re: Bayesian stats book banned in China

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post #59

I realize the "Death to the Shaw" spelled out by the first word of every seventeenth page was supposed to be a joke, but it is not very funny in light of the recent events of the last handful of days: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/0105/Suicide... Though I viciously dislike of all forms of royalty, they are still human beings and they did not get a choice about being born into the nonsense.

  I realize the "Death to the Shaw" spelled out by the first 
  word of every seventeenth page was supposed to be a joke
According to the Amazon search facility, none of the 26 instances of the word "death" appear first on a page. So yeah, I think it's a joke.

Re: Bayesian stats book banned in China

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While the thought that there's something in this book that is being censored is an appealing story, it's also a less than likely explanation. My guess is that the chinese publisher didn't want to pay royalties, and this was a convenient way to get a good quality copy of the book for printing without having to share profit.

I think you nailed it.

I've been thinking about it, and this may not be it. It sounds like he already has a relationship with this publisher for domestic publishing.

Re: Bayesian stats book banned in China

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While the thought that there's something in this book that is being censored is an appealing story, it's also a less than likely explanation. My guess is that the chinese publisher didn't want to pay royalties, and this was a convenient way to get a good quality copy of the book for printing without having to share profit.

I think you nailed it.

I've been thinking about it, and this may not be it. It sounds like he already has a relationship with this publisher for domestic publishing.

Re: Bayesian stats book banned in China

#75
1. You can still buy this book in Chinese online book stores

http://www.51eng.com/cn/bookdetail.asp?id=602871

http://www.51eng.com/cn/bookdetail.asp?id=602870

2. As a Chinese myself, I can confirm Bayesian is not taught in high school statistics, but defintely taught in college statistics course. It's called 贝叶斯概率 in Chinese.

Re: Bayesian stats book banned in China

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post #56

Hi Guys, I am from China, and of course the Bayesian is taught in China. Only in the culture revolution time, this crazy thing may happen; but it's long time ago when Mao was alive. Now China is a modern society; of course, the Bayesian theory is taught in schools; otherwise how could they send the spaceship to the outer space and have the fastest super computer in the world so far. you are smart hackers, not a bunch…

It's good Assange didn't wiki-leak China. Otherwise he'd be dead, not getting extradited to live in fame in a cushy prison.

You'd be surprised:

http://mirror.wikileaks.info/wiki/Category:China

(link not working FTM)

And just for the record, Assange didn't leak anything, users submit them or it was collected via Tor exit and wikileaks just publishes it.

Re: Bayesian stats book banned in China

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Launching a spaceship almost certainly uses Bayesian methods for tracking (e.g., Kalman or particle filters for position tracking), but I seriously doubt that building a supercomputer requires a dedicated use of Bayesian statistics. On a different note, perhaps you could be slightly less condescending in your future posts.

Is a Kalman filter considered a type of Bayesian statistics? It doesn't seem that way to me, but I'm not so hot at higher math. In any case, many years ago, I worked on a radar system for a fighter plane. Its air-to-ground radar (at the very least; this was the part I was involved in) did indeed use a Kalman filter.

Yup. It's a special case of Bayesian estimation that is derived when all the conditional distributions are Gaussian.

Re: Bayesian stats book banned in China

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like a joke at first, but once you take into account China's previous actions it's actually quite likely.

Like the (brief) period when the sense of traffic lights was changed, so that "red" indicated "go". This makes perfect sense, since anything red must of course stand for making progress.

If you watch the stock market news in China on TV, a stock highlighted in red means it went up, and green means down.

Re: Bayesian stats book banned in China

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post #62

Hi Guys, I am from China, and of course the Bayesian is taught in China. Only in the culture revolution time, this crazy thing may happen; but it's long time ago when Mao was alive. Now China is a modern society; of course, the Bayesian theory is taught in schools; otherwise how could they send the spaceship to the outer space and have the fastest super computer in the world so far. you are smart hackers, not a bunch…

If you're thinking about Wikileaks, think about how the official reaction is being widely regarded as a very overbearing, and very un-American thing, not as a typical expression of well-established values. Indeed, for a summary of well-established American values, see the collection defined by the Pentagon Papers, the Watergate story, and more recently, the NYT's Warrantless Wiretapping story. Together, they put the…

"But you join others on the more dubious side of the issue when you cite errors like this as excuses or justifications for vastly more abusive practices elsewhere, rather than violations of civil liberty that shouldn't be tolerated by self-respecting people anywhere."

Or to put it more bluntly: "America sucking is no excuse for China sucking" ;)

Re: Bayesian stats book banned in China

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Hi Guys, I am from China, and of course the Bayesian is taught in China. Only in the culture revolution time, this crazy thing may happen; but it's long time ago when Mao was alive. Now China is a modern society; of course, the Bayesian theory is taught in schools; otherwise how could they send the spaceship to the outer space and have the fastest super computer in the world so far. you are smart hackers, not a bunch…

lightoverhead,

I agree with the sentiment of your post - there is no reasonable way to censor a fundamental technical topic such as Bayesian statistics. I find myself wondering what the author did not post from his book that was questionable.

However, the tone of your post makes me wonder if you are a shill paid by the Chinese government to counter commentary critical of China on the Internet.

If I am mistaken, you have my sincerest apologies. The actions of your government have caused me to become a skeptic.

HackerNews,

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

Asia Times: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/JH14Ad01.html

In action, in relation to the underage Chinese gymnast in 2008 Olympics: http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2008/09/yang-yun-speaks-out.ht...

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