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Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager

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Re: Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager

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This looks neat. This is a kind of window manager I have wanted for quite a while on OSX

I have been using Magnet [1] for a long while and although it is not as flexible as Fancy Zones appears to be I am very happy with the extra functionality it provides.

[1] https://magnet.crowdcafe.com/

Re: Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager

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I tried using a custom "window manager" for Windows a while ago (back in the Vista days IIRC) and it didn't really work well.

The main problem was that, as far as I could tell, the window manager couldn't really preempt the windows and force them to show up in a certain way. Instead it basically asked them "pretty please, could you show up at this location with these dimensions?". As a result frozen apps (such as graphical apps that triggered a breakpoint in code or are simply misbehaving) or apps running as admin would refuse to obey and stay stuck. IIRC one workaround was to run the window manager with admin privilege but even that didn't help with frozen apps I think. Besides I wasn't really comfortable running such an application with administrator privileges.

Of course that was a long time ago and it was a non-MS project, hopefully this one works better. I really can't see myself working without a tiling WM anymore, "conventional" desktops feel terribly clunky and inefficient to me.

Re: Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager

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post #30

Will definitely check this out. I use a 43" 4K and the default corner/side snapping behavior is just not sufficient for managing windows. Having visual studio snapped to the right/left 50% of your screen all day is terrible for your neck, especially considering the default location of solution explorer in VS. I really just need a 'priority' zone or column right in the middle of the display that I can quickly snap oth…

Would a dual or triple-screen fit your requirements better ?

Re: Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager

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so, i've tried this out. it seems like, unless i'm missing something, the zones can only be used on your primary display right now. that makes it useless for me.

another commenter mentioned maxto so i tried it out as well. it looks like maxto is exactly what fancy zones will be once it's finished.

Re: Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an Open Source project. Send a PR or a feature request: https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/issues/new?assignees=...

> https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/issues/new?assignees=... This isn't something that's really a feature request. It would require changing how the whole entire application works at a fundamental level, or really building 2 applications in 1. That's why you have 2 different sets of tiling window managers on Linux. You either have fixed layout ones where it's automatic after configuration or manual tiling window…

> You either have fixed layout ones or dynamic tiling window managers instead of 1 tool trying to do both.

I must be missing something, because the 'dynamic' tiling window managers are 1 tool doing both fixed and floating (or stacking) layouts.

Re: Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager

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I know that several of my Windows-based co-workers will like this. Looking at the screenshots it does look cumbersome though. The real power of i3 is it's simplicity. You are not overwhelmed by complicated constructs. This appears to be a more static approach to tiling 'I want Layout #3' vs 'Open a new window here'. I really hope this catches on. It's a fantastic productivity booster that I feel is on-par with having…

In my opinion, the major disadvantage of current tiling WMs like i3 is that they don't make effective use of the mouse, which can be a very efficient input device for some usages. If this product is able to change that, then that could outweigh the pain of the awkward configuration for me.

Regarding the mouse... thats the entire point of i3, i.e. to make it all keyboard-driven.

It's sort of like saying "the problem with cars is that they don't make effective use of the horse".

i3 doesn't do anything to prevent you using the mouse for whatever application you like.

Re: Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager

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post #30

Will definitely check this out. I use a 43" 4K and the default corner/side snapping behavior is just not sufficient for managing windows. Having visual studio snapped to the right/left 50% of your screen all day is terrible for your neck, especially considering the default location of solution explorer in VS. I really just need a 'priority' zone or column right in the middle of the display that I can quickly snap oth…

If you're on an X11 based desktop system I would highly recommend Quicktile[1]. I have a 43 inch 4k too and the 3x1 layout is one of the most common I use. Centering a single window in the middle is also very useful. On my mac I use Spectactle[2] instead and I have the keyboard shortcuts mapped the same on both systems. If I would use Windows this looks like a good option.

[1] https://github.com/ssokolow/quicktile [2] https://www.spectacleapp.com/

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