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Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

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This page uses a lot of words to explain almost nothing, the linked “introduction” page is similar. Is this a thing I can sign up to? How does it make my life better? All I can tell so far is that it’s secure and some kind of social network Compare this to the WhatsApp landing page: https://www.whatsapp.com/ Edit: looks like it’s a framework for building apps, still unclear to me if it’s usable or any apps exist for…

This is true about anything GNUnet related, really.

What do you mean exactly?

Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

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Well, to me they don't look as if they'd like to be like WhatsApp. The product mustn't be finished yet and this is probably just some info to atract possible users, programmers and people who'd like to contribute. You can subscribe to their newsletter anyways (if that's what you want)

>Well, to me they don't look as if they'd like to be like WhatsApp. Yes, the overwhelming impression is that they'd like to avoid being like WhatsApp in that they don't want to have any users. Even if you are hoping to contribute, the "Getting Started" section which actually details what exists of the project is buried down at the bottom of the page - and that section is the closest the site comes to giving a proper…

> Yes, the overwhelming impression is that they'd like to avoid being like WhatsApp in that they don't want to have any users.

What makes you say that?

> Even if you are hoping to contribute, the "Getting Started" section which actually details what exists of the project is buried down at the bottom of the page - and that section is the closest the site comes to giving a proper explanation of what secushare actually is in terms of technology. The rest is waffle.

I suspect your issue stems from your approach to the project. I found the website tremendously informative. I spent a great deal of time on reading from top to bottom, and I followed the links, even links outside of Secushare.

The website tells you exactly what Secushare is, it goes into detail, you just have to go through "Navigation", and for example when you encounter an unfamiliar term in the context of the project, click on it to gain understanding, then continue.

You may want to start with https://secushare.org/, then go to https://secushare.org/introduction. You will reach section "Buzzwords to Dig Into". Go through them one by one, or pick whichever you would like to know more about. You could go to "Navigation -> Answers" instead as there will be links to the same pages. There are many different ways to go about this, but it essentially boils down to taking the time and effort to do so, and an open, curious mind.

Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

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I have seen a lot of their presentations at 33C3. Its quite interesting ideas that I was quite interested in. The problem with GNUnet in general that it seem very inaccessible to those outside of the university context. In their presentation they show that they did all these great test, but very little how I can run them, or achieve things with GNUnet. GNUnet is academic and has not yet found any real-world use case…

Have you gotten in touch with the developers? They recently redesigned their website, and are trying to make the project more approachable in general. If you have any remarks or suggestions for improvement, I'm sure they would be appreciated! (There's a contact page: https://gnunet.org/en/engage.html ) But yes, most of the sub-projects seem experimental, or on a low level and lacking a pleasant way for people to make…

I have seen an looked at some of these efforts, and its very nice. I don't really have usecase, or time to work on a project like that.

I'm sure if you get into it, you can lots of information but I have observed with multiple people that they start reading are interested and then drop out quickly.

Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

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>I'm quite annoyed by the superficial critics that are currently overflowing the comments. Of course this is [...] academic research I'm guessing there would be less readers' irritation if the following text that's at the bottom was moved to the very top so it's the 1st thing people see: >secushare is a research project that hasn't reached prototype status, yet. [...] So if you truly want to get started with secushar…

Appreciate the feedback. There was never an intention to mislead. We can see how having a disclaimer upfront improves communication transparency, so we've change the front-page accordingly.

I'll abuse this comment to ask: Have the GNUnet developers considered joining forces with the RINA developers?

I feel extremely tired of Beads-on-a-String networking which essentially still boils down to phone calls with extra steps which we falsely label as somehow constituting an Inter-Network capable system, despite neither IPv4 nor IPv6 in any way actually supporting internetwork communication. RINA addresses this issue completely, but it doesn't address the privacy infrastructure GNUnet addresses.

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