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Obama administration moves forward with unique Internet ID for all Americans
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#182Is this done anywhere else in the world? It is the scariest of the scary Big Brother measures I've seen recently...
In the Netherlands we have DigiD [1] which is used by most government sites.
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right. Because eBay and Paypal have completely eradicated fraud and the gaming of the system. In addition, there are no false-positives in this scheme and people are not thrown under the bus just because they aren't 'internet famous' enough to get their situation resolved... I'm not agreeing that we need a government system, but don't point to eBay as the solution to fraud.
What system in existence is completely resilient to fraud and false positives, and what evidence shows that the US government can produce such a system?
> what evidence shows that the US government can
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
That 353-808-A331 is the lower 64 bits of your ipv6 address anytime you do anything online. You won't have to login anywhere! If you need to do something important you'll just sign with your private key and the gov will graciously provide the public key keyserver. I've been trying to tell that to everybody for years. Your Fair Score is actually your TerrorScore. Would you like to sort social media profiles by TerrorS…
IPv4 NAT is the best thing that ever happened to online anonymity. There's exactly one person behind my NAT; how many are behind yours?
There were several papers over the past few years about using traffic analysis to figure out what's going on behind a NAT. I'm sure that the US government could manage to do this with all of the ISP-level snooping gear.
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#185Gongradulations fello americans,
your illuminati oligarchs have promoted you, to become ID numbers with unique identity
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How about because ppl prefer religion over science. And security over freedom. Federal government getting more corrupt and more powerful with each year. When do you think that each of those became true? Or is it that they've finally crossed a tipping point? I agree that they're all true, but they've been true since before 1776. And, as bad as the US is on an absolute scale, I'm having trouble finding some place bet…
>And, as bad as the US is on an absolute scale, I'm having trouble finding some place better. Then you're either putting impossible requirements on the new place (e.g. "and my friends have to all live there") or you're simply not looking. Throw a dart at western Europe. Any of those places will provide a better quality of living for most people.
> Throw a dart at western Europe. Any of those places will provide a better quality of living for most people.
Which direction is the immigration pressure?
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
>And, as bad as the US is on an absolute scale, I'm having trouble finding some place better. Then you're either putting impossible requirements on the new place (e.g. "and my friends have to all live there") or you're simply not looking. Throw a dart at western Europe. Any of those places will provide a better quality of living for most people.
> Throw a dart at western Europe. Any of those places will provide a better quality of living for most people. Which direction is the immigration pressure?
Irrelevant. Look at any standard of living study. They'll all have most of western Europe above the US for the average person. Most western European countries have more incoming migration than they are comfortable with.
I also think you'll find that migration pressure to the US has started to slow. You may still have a large amount from Mexico but that is about opportunity, not a testament of the US being the place to be.
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#188Profile: Sebastian Marshall. Internet ID 353-808-A331. Known aliases: "lionhearted". Primary contact info: sebastian@sebastianmarshall.com Political positions: A believer in liberty, pro-international travel and open borders, tends towards mild hostility towards regulation. Generally law-abiding. Friendliness to American Interests Rating (FAIR): 72/100
That 353-808-A331 is the lower 64 bits of your ipv6 address anytime you do anything online. You won't have to login anywhere! If you need to do something important you'll just sign with your private key and the gov will graciously provide the public key keyserver. I've been trying to tell that to everybody for years. Your Fair Score is actually your TerrorScore. Would you like to sort social media profiles by TerrorS…
NAT just adds a port number to your identity. And port number changes more frequently.
Anyway, if you're talking about governments (so ISPs are required to cooperate, by law), 3-tuple (IP, port, timestamp) is enough to identify you. Even more traditional (IP, timestamp) pair is enough for low-to-medium-trafficked ISPs or sites.
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#189We are going to end up with something sooner or later. The fact is that we want (and can) enter into contracts on the Internet. In order to enforce contracts we must have identities. Since the Government (specifically the judiciary) enforces contracts, this means that we must be entering into these contracts under Government-managed identities. Currently we acquire and prove this Government-managed identity using an…
> In order to enforce contracts we must have identities.
In theory - no, we don't, except for ephemeral one-time identities which are actually anonymous.
In real world - yes, (un)?fortunately we must. Still, there's no reason to require that anyone must have one and only one identity, and this identity must be state-issued.
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is NOT that people prefer religion over science. The problem is people prefer sitcoms over both religion and science.
Uh what? I'd prefer that most Americans sat and watched sitcoms and left the mental lifting to the rest of us. Sadly, the religious folk think they have a seat at the intellectual table as well.
LOL. I love that I get downvoted and the child comment gets upvoted. ITT Religious people are sad that their ilk are ignorant and are holding back social progress.