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Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by ssalazar »

tempsy wrote: post #78
penagwin wrote: post #77

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> React is FB and Angular is Google This doesn't matter in practice - they could have freely used either to design the web client at no cost. If they wanted to take over development and go their own direction they just had to fork them.

Of course in doesn’t matter in practice. It’s the optics.

Is there still patent uncertainty around React (or Angular)? Otherwise, Im not sure why anyone outside HN would care about the optics of which front-end library was used.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by Rebelgecko »

bendavis381 wrote: post #56
ryanianian wrote: post #33

Whatever. I was really hoping to see some improvements to the music-organization and display aspects here but it looks like they just re-implemented the weird parts of iTunes using html5. For example: It drives me crazy how Apple Music emphasizes the idea that "Recently Added" is only grouped by albums . I don't add whole albums to my library, I add individual songs . I want to play all the songs I've recently added…

On iOS: Library -> Songs -> Sort by recently added

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like this option exists on Android. Maybe it's hiding with the setting to let me download all of my songs.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by Rebelgecko »

RandallBrown wrote: post #21

This was the reason I chose Spotify over Apple music all those years ago. Any reason to prefer Apple Music over Spotify? Spotify's recommendations have been absolutely stellar for me over the years and I have a lot of playlists and stuff "locking" me in.

Apple Music's offline playback has bugs but it is less broken than Spotify's (although unlike Spotify you can't automatically download all your songs, you have to do some hacky workaround where you create a smart playlist of all of your songs and then download that playlist every time you get a new song)

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by tempsy »

ssalazar wrote: post #81
tempsy wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course in doesn’t matter in practice. It’s the optics.

Is there still patent uncertainty around React (or Angular)? Otherwise, Im not sure why anyone outside HN would care about the optics of which front-end library was used.

Are you really saying you don’t understand why Apple might not want to use a framework created by their frenemies in Facebook and Google, especially given Apple’s focus on privacy and willingness to make an example of FB and Google for their comparatively lax privacy standards?

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by Rebelgecko »

dan1234 wrote: post #55
hombre_fatal wrote: post #26

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Not really. I've never used Apple Music, but as far as I can tell, it has no real free tier (just song previews) and it has a long way to go if it wants to compete with Spotify's playlists. For example, regional playlists. Apple Music just has "Top 100 {country}" which is just radio pop music. Compare that to Spotify's Explore -> {Mexico,Colombia,Arab,etc} -> all the different subgenres. Spotify's free tier is a no-b…

> Also, even if Apple Music managed to be a Spotify clone, doesn't it only work on iOS/OSX? Apple Music has been available on Android for a few years. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.andr...

Although IME it doesn't have feature parity with the desktop or iOS versions

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by vonseel »

holler wrote: post #79
vonseel wrote: post #64

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I’m surprised. I haven’t heard anything about Ember in years. Not since 2013 or so.

alive and well with huge strides in the framework, better than ever. that said ember gets much less press than it's peers, partly due to not being backed by a major fang corp and historical perception. https://blog.emberjs.com/2019/08/15/octane-release-plan.html

I only remember Ember because it was so much more popular at the time (2013? Early 2014?) than Backbone, which I had just completed an application using, and Angular, which was relatively new to the scene. Ember looked like it was the next big thing. And then, I guess, React came around and everybody was hot on the heels of the next big thing.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by tptacek »

Can't link directly to a personal playlist (even if it's "published" to Apple's weird social network) for someone not already logged in (they just get the Apple Music landing page). So close! They're so smart, they'll figure this out some day!

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by ashish-gandhi »

kevin2r wrote: post #65
eddieh wrote: post #63

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Actually Apple Music in iTunes is just a web view that leaks like crazy, to the point of making iTunes slow to a crawl, if you're quickly navigating through artists and albums. Not much better than Electron IMO. Apple Music in the browser seems like there isn't much hope of a truly native experience now.

What about the new Music app coming in MacOS Catalina? Does it implements the views in html5?

The Podcasts and TV apps are native Catalyst (iPad apps on macOS) apps.

The Music app is still some sort of Frankenstein iTunes thing. The Library section views are native. The Apple Music section is still web. It is still slow compared to Spotify but much better compared to how it is in iTunes.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by ulkesh »

sys_64738 wrote: post #75

Messages beta should be along shortly! Fingers crossed.

Even though many providers now have end-to-end encryption with web interfaces for messaging, Apple has maintained that it can't be done securely. We shall see if they have changed their minds.
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