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I didn't realize that things in China are that crazy...
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"Bayesian Statistics are just a theory. Teachers should be required to state this to students and also to give equal time to alternate theories, such as the theory of Intelligent Predetermination." Are things in China that crazy?
Unless you are forbidden to publish books on Evolution in the US, then yes, things in China are that crazy.
But yeah, since you ask, I believe that the kind of people who want creationism taught in public schools would ban books on evolution if they thought they could get away with it.
Is there any way to find out the specific reason the book was not allowed to be published?
Is there any way to find out the specific reason the book was not allowed to be published?
My guess is that the chinese publisher didn't want to pay royalties, and this was a convenient way to get a good quality copy of the book for printing without having to share profit.
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Unless you are forbidden to publish books on Evolution in the US, then yes, things in China are that crazy.
i don't mean that specific kind of crazy, but rather an overall suggestion that humans of all extractions have a habit of arguing with the facts for various reasons. But yeah, since you ask, I believe that the kind of people who want creationism taught in public schools would ban books on evolution if they thought they could get away with it.
The reason that it is the case that "things are this crazy in China" is that there is a difference between the existence of people who would probably enjoy implementing crazy policies and the actual implementation of crazy policies.
I am from China, and of course the Bayesian is taught in China. Only in the culture revolution time, this crazy thing may happen; but it's long time ago when Mao was alive. Now China is a modern society; of course, the Bayesian theory is taught in schools; otherwise how could they send the spaceship to the outer space and have the fastest super computer in the world so far. you are smart hackers, not a bunch of kids controlled by traditional biases. As to censorship, that's right, china has notorious censorship. I guess the author's book must have some contents/examples regarding political issues; not Bayesian itself was the reason for the book being censored. These days, when people talked about censorship, I always think of wiki-leaks ......
Is there any way to find out the specific reason the book was not allowed to be published?
While the thought that there's something in this book that is being censored is an appealing story, it's also a less than likely explanation. My guess is that the chinese publisher didn't want to pay royalties, and this was a convenient way to get a good quality copy of the book for printing without having to share profit.
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i don't mean that specific kind of crazy, but rather an overall suggestion that humans of all extractions have a habit of arguing with the facts for various reasons. But yeah, since you ask, I believe that the kind of people who want creationism taught in public schools would ban books on evolution if they thought they could get away with it.
Sure, there are people crazy enough that they would ban books on evolution, just are there are undoubtedly people who are crazy enough to ban books on creationism. Those are probably not even near the top of the list of crazy things people wish they could do. The reason that it is the case that "things are this crazy in China" is that there is a difference between the existence of people who would probably enjoy impl…
As we saw in the FLQ Crisis and again during the G20 summit, Canadians can lock thousands of people up without due process of law. As we saw in Kansas, certain Americans can ban the teaching of established science in the classroom.
But our system at least makes these things aberrations and provides dissenters a way to rectify the problems in the courts.'
edit: I think what I'm trying to say is "Our system provides us with an undo, but it's only good when we remain vigilant against craziness. If we become complacent and assume that we as people are somehow too intelligent or too morally centered to do crazy things, wham, we do crazy things too."
Hi Guys, I am from China, and of course the Bayesian is taught in China. Only in the culture revolution time, this crazy thing may happen; but it's long time ago when Mao was alive. Now China is a modern society; of course, the Bayesian theory is taught in schools; otherwise how could they send the spaceship to the outer space and have the fastest super computer in the world so far. you are smart hackers, not a bunch…
Do these things require specifically Bayesian statistics?
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On the other hand, nothing says that the China censorship mechanism has to be consistent, in fact I'd almost expect them to be arbitrary and capricious. It might be that whatever individual decided to ban this book would also have wanted to ban other the things you mention if they had been aware of them.
If they try to ban Chinese citizens from international conferences and journals in anything related to Bayesian methods, I can tell you firsthand that a lot of math/CS/ML/AI conferences will shrivel up quite a bit. They won't die, but it'll be like the Cold War, where Russian mathematicians made advances that were insulated from the west for many years, and vice versa. A net loss for everyone, especially in a topic a…