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Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is true about anything GNUnet related, really.

I still find this image of GNUnet-GTK hilarious: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/0/0a/Gnunet-gtk_0....

I like how the availability of each file is 0%. "Yeah, we focused on the amazing UI first - we'll handle downloading later".

Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

#22
post #9

for those wondering if there are more tangible alternatives, check out the “social” apps on Blockstack (sadly there's no way to filter/sort). https://app.co/blockstack EDITED: fixed to use a public URL.

I hope this goes further than app.net (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App.net) did.

Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

#23
post #13

I'm quite annoyed by the superficial critics that are currently overflowing the comments. Of course this is an ambitious project that is driven by (of course slow paced) academic research. This is very serious and is of course actively not giving a fuck about current mainstream trends in software engineering. It is technically ambitious: no-bullshit distributed systems are hard with the current Xcoin trends. GNUnet s…

If you want freedom you have to work for it because government and corporations are conspiring to take all of it away. And I do mean ALL OF IT.

Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

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post #19

Decentralized social network: a customized phpBB with a good OpenID module would be enough. Host your own, authenticate yourself to other instances, use RSS feeds to create your own composite timelines.

But then nobody gets to write anything new. There is nothing the modern software developer loves more than writing new things from scratch that do same things as older things but slower and with more buzzwords.

Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

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Clicked expecting to see a social network. Instead got a generic introduction on something that doesn't exist.

Seems like vaporware. The "built on GNUnet" in the subject line really should be "planned to be built on GNUnet" or maybe "imagined on GNUnet".

Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

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post #15
post #9

for those wondering if there are more tangible alternatives, check out the “social” apps on Blockstack (sadly there's no way to filter/sort). https://app.co/blockstack EDITED: fixed to use a public URL.

Being "more tangible" is an opinion, so i could just counter "non-argue" that i think these things are actually less tangible, we would now have ended-up nowhere since there is nothing more to add (tbh i actually have that opinion, which might be explained by what follows). To add something which is not an opinion, i would say that these blockstack or actually Xcoin based whatever "dapp" (seriously, what is this voca…

I’ll try and address your objections to my post, Blockstack and the apps developed on top of Blockstack.

> Being "more tangible" is an opinion

Yes. However my post was in response to someone who seemed disappointed that the story was not about something that was available. It was not meant as a criticism generally, but as something else to check out for those who might share that disappointment.

> “dapp" (seriously, what is this vocabulary, these are brandings, marketing terms

Some may use this term as a marketing ploy, but “dapp” is literally nothing more than “distributed app”. What is distributed? In the case of Blockstack, the users’ data and their identity. By design it ensures that control of data and identity is not only distributed to the users, but cannot be centralised (or recentralised), irrespective of the app. [0]

> have nothing to do with gnunet or secushare on the moral level, they are really different beasts with different goals

Firstly I’d argue that this is an opinion. But secondly I’d add that it is an ill-informed opinion. The Blockstack design means that users retain control of their data and their identity, and these cannot be taken from, nor weaponised against users. This is not merely a statement of intent [0], but am outcome of design [1].

> Marketing vs science,

I believe this is adequately addressed by their white paper which I won’t attempt to summarise. [1]

> social vs commercial, private vs libre

The GNU philosophy is not about free as in beer but free as in libre. It is also not anathema to commercial use. The Blockstack core is licensed under the GPL v3, and all documentation is Creative Commons licensed. I’d argue that a worse denial of freedom (than software freedom) is having your data and identity held hostage ie. denial of the freedom to move or remove my data and identity. Holding your digital self hostage is eminently possible by a cloud service even if it’s built entirely on open source software, while not possible for a Blockstack dapp even if it were closed source. The core philosophy of Blockstack is “can’t be evil”.

> if you're not seeing the objective difference here then you're not trying

An opinion. I could counter that you didn’t try very hard to see the similarities.

[0] https://github.com/blockstack/blockstack-core/blob/master/RE...

[1] https://blockstack.org/docs/how-blockstack-works

[2] https://github.com/blockstack/blockstack-core/blob/master/RE...

Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

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post #18
post #13

I'm quite annoyed by the superficial critics that are currently overflowing the comments. Of course this is an ambitious project that is driven by (of course slow paced) academic research. This is very serious and is of course actively not giving a fuck about current mainstream trends in software engineering. It is technically ambitious: no-bullshit distributed systems are hard with the current Xcoin trends. GNUnet s…

>I'm quite annoyed by the superficial critics that are currently overflowing the comments. Of course this is [...] academic research I'm guessing there would be less readers' irritation if the following text that's at the bottom was moved to the very top so it's the 1st thing people see: >secushare is a research project that hasn't reached prototype status, yet. [...] So if you truly want to get started with secushar…

The front page currently has articles about Finnish babies sleeping in cardboard boxes, and the benefits of sleeping with a weighted blanket. Just because there isn't something you can try, doesn't mean it's not interesting.

Re: Secushare: A decentralized, secure social network built on GNUnet

#30
It sounds cutting edge to me but the last time I tried to install GnuNet on Windows and Ubuntu I gave up after awhile because it seemed like, if I recall correctly, it wouldn't run on Windows anymore and something was broken with the Ubuntu build/install I was trying to do.\

It seemed like I would need to debug a broken build in order to use any of it for anything.

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