Sorry, your “cool” webapp is probably not going to make money
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Re: Sorry, your “cool” webapp is probably not going to make money
#2As a startup founder in the internet space i can relate to this very well. For a founder with a technical background like me its hard to sometimes get the thinking off of the details of implementation. I like to think and work on architecture, under-the-hood features, scalability etc, but in the end it wont matter if noone uses the product. Users dont see and dont care for any of that, they want to you improve what they deal with everyday. So you have to find a good balance between that to make your product better but still work on the overall technical structure to keep things smoothly.
Also marketing probably is much more important than the quality of your code or even app.
Re: Sorry, your “cool” webapp is probably not going to make money
#3I would add, even better is to start with the delivery channel. If you've got ways to reach a market which spends money, you're yet another step ahead.
Re: Sorry, your “cool” webapp is probably not going to make money
#4I would add, even better is to start with the delivery channel. If you've got ways to reach a market which spends money, you're yet another step ahead.
Interesting. Can you elaborate what you mean by delivery channel?
Re: Sorry, your “cool” webapp is probably not going to make money
#5I think the web app-building crowd here is divided into two groups of hackers: Those who are in it to build businesses and those who just want to create apps that people use.
Everybody likes money, but there's a big group of people out there that only want people to use their apps and are not in it for the money.
Re: Sorry, your “cool” webapp is probably not going to make money
#6I think the web app-building crowd here is divided into two groups of hackers: Those who are in it to build businesses and those who just want to create apps that people use. Everybody likes money, but there's a big group of people out there that only want people to use their apps and are not in it for the money.
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#7Yes, but ... we are on YC site and at least twice a year we hear about cool companies appearing out of the blue with crazy idea and some of them get acquired or start bringing profits.
So, the 'cool' factor will continue to have its benefits and is a good method to actually get going initially.
Re: Sorry, your “cool” webapp is probably not going to make money
#8I think the web app-building crowd here is divided into two groups of hackers: Those who are in it to build businesses and those who just want to create apps that people use. Everybody likes money, but there's a big group of people out there that only want people to use their apps and are not in it for the money.
Exactly. My post is meant for people who actually want to make money. Making apps for skill enhancement, fun and enjoyment is perfectly good. But expecting to make money from such apps and calling them startups is not OK.
Re: Sorry, your “cool” webapp is probably not going to make money
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Re: Sorry, your “cool” webapp is probably not going to make money
#10I would add, even better is to start with the delivery channel. If you've got ways to reach a market which spends money, you're yet another step ahead.
Interesting. Can you elaborate what you mean by delivery channel?
Delivery channel = A way to reach the market.
For example, maybe you have ideas for products in half a dozen industries, but in one of those industries you happen to have a good friend who works in it (and thus has contacts there) and know the editor of one of the industry trade magazines. Those are both delivery channels into that industry. Compared to another niche where you have no contacts, it is much better to build a startup for that niche where you have some way to reach the market.
This may be already implied in your mind, but a lot of people wouldn't get it from reading your article. They'd start listing out industries and then picking one of them. I'm suggesting: list out your deliver channels first, and go from there (as a kind of step 0 in your process).
For example, Stack Overflow had two excellent delivery channels to reach programmer communities around the world (Joel and Jeff's blogs). It's fair to say that those two channels "made" stack-overflow.