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Human speech may have a universal transmission rate: 39 bits per second

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Re: Human speech may have a universal transmission rate: 39 bits per second

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>Scientists started with written texts from 17 languages, including English, Italian, Japanese, and Vietnamese. They calculated the information density of each language in bits—the same unit that describes how quickly your cellphone, laptop, or computer modem transmits information.

I feel like the whole "bits" calculation is a neat way to get into the media, but not actually related to "information density".

Edit: Been informed I'm deeply ignorant on Information Theory.

Re: Human speech may have a universal transmission rate: 39 bits per second

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>Scientists started with written texts from 17 languages, including English, Italian, Japanese, and Vietnamese. They calculated the information density of each language in bits—the same unit that describes how quickly your cellphone, laptop, or computer modem transmits information. I feel like the whole "bits" calculation is a neat way to get into the media, but not actually related to "information density". Edit: Be…

It's hard to translate to bits, but there is definitely different information densities between language. E.g. when you write a paragraph in Spanish, the total number of keystrokes you'll need is higher than writing the same thing in English.

Re: Human speech may have a universal transmission rate: 39 bits per second

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>Scientists started with written texts from 17 languages, including English, Italian, Japanese, and Vietnamese. They calculated the information density of each language in bits—the same unit that describes how quickly your cellphone, laptop, or computer modem transmits information. I feel like the whole "bits" calculation is a neat way to get into the media, but not actually related to "information density". Edit: Be…

Bits is a base unit of information theory.

Re: Human speech may have a universal transmission rate: 39 bits per second

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>Scientists started with written texts from 17 languages, including English, Italian, Japanese, and Vietnamese. They calculated the information density of each language in bits—the same unit that describes how quickly your cellphone, laptop, or computer modem transmits information. I feel like the whole "bits" calculation is a neat way to get into the media, but not actually related to "information density". Edit: Be…

Theoretically a summarisation algorithm (or neural network) should reduce sentences of similar content from different languages to similar sizes no?

Re: Human speech may have a universal transmission rate: 39 bits per second

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>Scientists started with written texts from 17 languages, including English, Italian, Japanese, and Vietnamese. They calculated the information density of each language in bits—the same unit that describes how quickly your cellphone, laptop, or computer modem transmits information. I feel like the whole "bits" calculation is a neat way to get into the media, but not actually related to "information density". Edit: Be…

Human speech uses the extremely dense lossy compression method called "A Lifetime of Experience and Biases"

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> instead of being limited by how quickly we can process information by listening, we’re likely limited by how quickly we can gather our thoughts. That’s because, he says, the average person can listen to audio recordings sped up to about 120%—and still have no problems with comprehension. “It really seems that the bottleneck is in putting the ideas together.”

Glad this paragraph was in the article, clears up their methodology. I wonder if it applies to writing too, or if skilled writers work faster.

Re: Human speech may have a universal transmission rate: 39 bits per second

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>Scientists started with written texts from 17 languages, including English, Italian, Japanese, and Vietnamese. They calculated the information density of each language in bits—the same unit that describes how quickly your cellphone, laptop, or computer modem transmits information. I feel like the whole "bits" calculation is a neat way to get into the media, but not actually related to "information density". Edit: Be…

Bit is the unit usually used for describing entropy, information density, and channel capacity, regardless of whether computer systems are involved. See https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d554/d933fd78e19d51d68ac4ea... and, more generally, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_capacity and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_theory.

The field of Information theory effectively began with Claude Shannon. The same formalisms he developed are used outside computer science--linguistics, physics, microbiology, etc.

Re: Human speech may have a universal transmission rate: 39 bits per second

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>Scientists started with written texts from 17 languages, including English, Italian, Japanese, and Vietnamese. They calculated the information density of each language in bits—the same unit that describes how quickly your cellphone, laptop, or computer modem transmits information. I feel like the whole "bits" calculation is a neat way to get into the media, but not actually related to "information density". Edit: Be…

This has actually been a fairly popular idea within linguistics for a long time, and is absolutely relevant to information density. Problems like these need to be better understood for natural language understanding and translation, and 'bits' provide a good baseline measurement.
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