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Re: Amazon AWS had a power failure, their backup generators failed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is what they said in my support panel. This event made for a fairly tense Saturday morning for my development team and I. [01:30 PM PDT] At 4:33 AM PDT one of ten data centers in one of the six Availability Zones in the US-EAST-1 Region saw a failure of utility power. Our backup generators came online immediately but began failing at around 6:00 AM PDT. This impacted 7.5% of EC2 instances and EBS volumes in the…

Serious question, for market strategy understanding: HA would normally use two AZs, 21C architectures would use three AZs, and other patterns such as pilot light let you use additional AZs without a significant cost hit. Further, when you can make workload-handling instances so much smaller (even down into the T sizes, and with cattle patterns you can start to leverage spot pricing), each additional AZ you add to the…

Can you detail/link resources about "21C architectures" and "pilot light pattern"? Thanks!

Re: Amazon AWS had a power failure, their backup generators failed

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is what they said in my support panel. This event made for a fairly tense Saturday morning for my development team and I. [01:30 PM PDT] At 4:33 AM PDT one of ten data centers in one of the six Availability Zones in the US-EAST-1 Region saw a failure of utility power. Our backup generators came online immediately but began failing at around 6:00 AM PDT. This impacted 7.5% of EC2 instances and EBS volumes in the…

Serious question, for market strategy understanding: HA would normally use two AZs, 21C architectures would use three AZs, and other patterns such as pilot light let you use additional AZs without a significant cost hit. Further, when you can make workload-handling instances so much smaller (even down into the T sizes, and with cattle patterns you can start to leverage spot pricing), each additional AZ you add to the…

A lot of organisations are very very conservative and slow moving, and AWS seemed the most likely thing to still be around after/during the 15 year project to shift things out of private data centers.

Re: Amazon AWS had a power failure, their backup generators failed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question, for market strategy understanding: HA would normally use two AZs, 21C architectures would use three AZs, and other patterns such as pilot light let you use additional AZs without a significant cost hit. Further, when you can make workload-handling instances so much smaller (even down into the T sizes, and with cattle patterns you can start to leverage spot pricing), each additional AZ you add to the…

Can you detail/link resources about "21C architectures" and "pilot light pattern"? Thanks!

My guess on “21C architectures” is “21st century architectures”. I can’t seem to find anything on “pilot light pattern” in quick searches.

Either way, GP is using obscure terminology at best.

Re: Amazon AWS had a power failure, their backup generators failed

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This seems to be getting slightly overblown in that thread. To be clear, this impacted one datacenter out of ten that make up one availability zone out of six in AWS’s us-east-1 region. So we are talking 2-3% at most of that region’s capacity was impacted. I haven’t seen a report yet on exactly why their generator failed, but from what I’ve heard, the power failed, and the backup generator kicked in and ran fine for…

EBS Snapshots don't just protect you in case of a failure to recover to something, they actually reduce the chance of failure[1]. Assuming that the S3 storage has no data loss[2], you lower the data loss possibility for your EBS volume to only those bits that have been changed since the last snapshot.

[1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13576363/does-taking-a-s...

[2]: Yes it's a big if but S3 for durability against data loss is like the US Treasury for risk free returns on T-Bills.

Re: Amazon AWS had a power failure, their backup generators failed

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He is just having a temper tantrum. Everything can fail and everything does fail. There was an outage a few years ago in a well known colo/ip/managed services provider where the feeder line from the power company failed, the ATS flipped to the backup power which had a limited run time. And, due to one of those 1/1000 events that should never happen (because that ATS should flip maybe 5-6 times a year) it fused to the…

I’ve seen at least 3 variations of the problem you mention, where power failover caused protracted downtime requiring rush delivery of niche replacement hardware. (That last is big: I’ve seen 8-figure enterprise hardware spends down for a week because it requires flying someone in to fix it, whereas AWS/Google has 24x7 staffing along with redundancy).

Anyone thinking this doesn’t happen with private data centers is either very green or selectively excusing problems.

Re: Amazon AWS had a power failure, their backup generators failed

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Although this was not reported on the status dashboard, this also affected elasticcache as well.It was acknowledged by the rep on the phone and via email issue got resolved. We weren't able start/reboot any redis instances on us-east-1a so had to launch on us-east-1c.

Re: Amazon AWS had a power failure, their backup generators failed

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This seems to be getting slightly overblown in that thread. To be clear, this impacted one datacenter out of ten that make up one availability zone out of six in AWS’s us-east-1 region. So we are talking 2-3% at most of that region’s capacity was impacted. I haven’t seen a report yet on exactly why their generator failed, but from what I’ve heard, the power failed, and the backup generator kicked in and ran fine for…

Some AWS services can't span across multiple availability zones like EMR.

Re: Amazon AWS had a power failure, their backup generators failed

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This tweet might be in response to the AWS Post event summary from August 23, 2019: > We’d like to give you some additional information about the service disruption that occurred in the Tokyo (AP-NORTHEAST-1) Region on August 23, 2019. Beginning at 12:36 PM JST, a small percentage of EC2 servers in a single Availability Zone in the Tokyo (AP-NORTHEAST-1) Region shut down due to overheating. https://aws.amazon.com/mes…

But the guy's tweet specifically mentions Reston (Virginia). This is in the vicinity of us-east-1. By the way, I'm pretty sure none of the actual AWS datacenters are in Reston proper. They are in Ashburn and other more sparse suburbs. Source: I live in the DC area and regularly visit Reston and Herndon. There are large AWS offices in Herndon but not so many datacenters. Real estate in Reston is pretty expensive.

> By the way, I'm pretty sure none of the actual AWS datacenters are in Reston proper.

Pretty sure you are right. The physical AWS data centers I know of in Reston area are:

4 DCs on Smith Switch Rd in Ashburn, VA

2 DCs (IAD54 and IAD67) elsewhere in Ashburn, VA

3 DCs on West Severn Way in Sterling, VA

3 DCs on Dulles Summit Ct in Sterling, VA

2 DCs on Prologis Dr in Sterling, VA

2 DCs on Relocation Dr in Sterling, VA

2 DCs (IAD69 and IAD76) elsewhere in Sterling, VA

1 DC in South Riding, VA

4 DCs on Westfax Drive in Chantilly, VA

3 DCs on Mason King Ct in Manassas, VA

2 DCs elsewhere in Manassas, VA

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