Hong Kong leader to announce formal withdrawal of extradition bill
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Re: Hong Kong leader to announce formal withdrawal of extradition bill
#2I don't think Beijing anticipated or endorsed this. In context of Lams leaked resignation remarks yesterday, it looks like Lam is going rogue. She's setting herself up to be replaced via disobedience, because all signs pointed to Emergency Regulations Ordinance being invoked if protest continues. Her legacy is already ruined, but I think she doesn't have the stomach to double down that far.
Beijing specifically instructed Lam not to give in to any demands a week ago. Lam capitulating is Beijing capitulating, and Beijing is not going to capitulate with 70th anniversary coming up and activated mainland nationalism. Beijing is all in. For mainlanders, after how events have been portrayed by state media, Lam is basically acquiescing to terrorists. The situation is developing and I think there's a very narrow set of outcomes where this would not backfire spectacularly.
Re: Hong Kong leader to announce formal withdrawal of extradition bill
#3Five demands, not one less.
五大訴求，缺一不可。
Re: Hong Kong leader to announce formal withdrawal of extradition bill
#4Five demands, not one less. 五大訴求，缺一不可。
https://youtu.be/9bAoq7k3tZ0
No seriously, these demands are a joke and not constructive. If anything it's just being used as an excuse to cause more chaos.
I'm trying to keep this comment as a logical opinion since I know hn isn't a place for flamed political views
Re: Hong Kong leader to announce formal withdrawal of extradition bill
#5Too much hacker news are political these days.
Re: Hong Kong leader to announce formal withdrawal of extradition bill
#6Five demands, not one less. 五大訴求，缺一不可。
https://youtu.be/9bAoq7k3tZ0 No seriously, these demands are a joke and not constructive. If anything it's just being used as an excuse to cause more chaos. I'm trying to keep this comment as a logical opinion since I know hn isn't a place for flamed political views
If you say something is a joke, and post an opinion through a music video. You cannot then claim your opinion is logical. Protestors opinions cannot be reduced to a joke without any explanation.
Re: Hong Kong leader to announce formal withdrawal of extradition bill
#7Five demands, not one less. 五大訴求，缺一不可。
https://youtu.be/9bAoq7k3tZ0 No seriously, these demands are a joke and not constructive. If anything it's just being used as an excuse to cause more chaos. I'm trying to keep this comment as a logical opinion since I know hn isn't a place for flamed political views
Without any context, this comment actually just reads like a pile of garbage.
Re: Hong Kong leader to announce formal withdrawal of extradition bill
#8I don't think Beijing anticipated or endorsed this. In context of Lams leaked resignation remarks yesterday, it looks like Lam is going rogue. She's setting herself up to be replaced via disobedience, because all signs pointed to Emergency Regulations Ordinance being invoked if protest continues. Her legacy is already ruined, but I think she doesn't have the stomach to double down that far. Beijing specifically instr…
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Re: Hong Kong leader to announce formal withdrawal of extradition bill
#9Five demands, not one less. 五大訴求，缺一不可。
Can someone translate / explain this ?
Re: Hong Kong leader to announce formal withdrawal of extradition bill
#10I don't think Beijing anticipated or endorsed this. In context of Lams leaked resignation remarks yesterday, it looks like Lam is going rogue. She's setting herself up to be replaced via disobedience, because all signs pointed to Emergency Regulations Ordinance being invoked if protest continues. Her legacy is already ruined, but I think she doesn't have the stomach to double down that far. Beijing specifically instr…
Well, it looks like HK is "all-in" as well - and they have a lot more to lose. It may seem like the protests can't possibly accomplish anything, but they have successfully alerted the world to the soft coup in progress and are now forcing Beijing to escalate to a very public hard coup.
Forcing the issue this way may appear pointless, but it's the possibly superior option to sliding gently into that good night.