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I washed one of my Natural in the dishwasher, and it still worked for a while, but as hard as I tried to make sure it dried afterward, the keys started to feel more "scratchy." It's possible this would all be in my head, but I feel like the water did do some level of damage.
It might be the heat you ran the wash at, what temp/setting was it?
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You're right. I bought a $250 Leopold FC660C to combat repetitive strain injury, because my doctor said to minimize the distance between the home row and my mouse pad. But most less-expensive 60% ("ten key-less") boards either lack arrow keys or have obnoxious, loud switches. These weren't feasible because I use arrow keys all the time for Visual Studio and I work in open-office hell. The Leopold has quiet Topre swit…
Both my Microsoft and Logitech ergonomic keyboards are wearing out, so I spent some time last week looking for a replacement. Logitech seem no longer to make one, and Microsoft's has laptop keys, which I find very uncomfortable. This site [1] has a quick gallery, and this[2] Github page a lot more (including many niche or kit ones). The Kinesis Freestyle looked like a good option, but I decided to try one of the nerd…
- No caps lock indicator - Fn keys are a bit small, and I prefer a Fn button as opposed to a switch - Uses a proprietary dongle instead of Bluetooth
Maybe one day I'll get an ErgoDox, but I need to figure out what switches I like first...
Author here. A lot of people commented here saying it's questionable not to mention I happened to use an affiliate link. I want to thank those people for bringing that up. My intent wasn't to deceive anyone and I hope my HN comment history (98% of what I post here are comments on other people's stuff) separate me from yet another affiliate blog spammer. I just pushed an update to my site that now includes a little sn…
Isn't it required by Amazon Affiliate to have a warning on ALL pages that link back to Amazon using affiliate tracking? Isn't it also required by federal law as well?
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I think this article is written from the perspective of a satisficer- it sufficiently meets the requirements he cares about. This is the perspective of most consumers for most of the goods we purchase. It's good to get a well-considered perspective from somebody that isn't deep into the "enthusiast" category of keyboard purchasers.
The whole deal with mechanical keyboards feels to me a lot like putting too much emphasis on the rig without real justification. Sure extremely skilled people do need the extra performance in some circumstances, but chances are the rig is not used by extremely skilled. And have seen it in a lot of fields and I've actually been culpable of it: * competitive sailing: I've done quite a bit of dinghy sailing and regattas…
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Both my Microsoft and Logitech ergonomic keyboards are wearing out, so I spent some time last week looking for a replacement. Logitech seem no longer to make one, and Microsoft's has laptop keys, which I find very uncomfortable. This site [1] has a quick gallery, and this[2] Github page a lot more (including many niche or kit ones). The Kinesis Freestyle looked like a good option, but I decided to try one of the nerd…
I have a Microsoft Sculpt keyboard and it's probably the best keyboard I've used in a long time. The hand position is really comfortable and the keys have a nice response that isn't too laptopy (I prefer low travel keys). My only complaints are: - No caps lock indicator - Fn keys are a bit small, and I prefer a Fn button as opposed to a switch - Uses a proprietary dongle instead of Bluetooth Maybe one day I'll get an…
Perhaps you could use a tiny widget that shows the caps lock status next to the clock?
I ordered Cherry MX Browns, which seemed like a fairly standard choice — red for gamers, brown for typists. I just hope they're not too loud.
[1] http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net/images/8/d/logitech-cor...
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I can't really blame him though, if you assume Amazon is the standard marketplace for everything all you'll find is Cherry blue and red switches, and Razer/Logitech's versions of those. It wasn't until I attended a mechanical keyboard conference that I found out about Zealios, by far my favorite switch but near-impossible to find in pre-built boards. Even Clears, which are really great and my favorite Cherry switch,…
Exactly. And now 6+ hours and hundreds of comments later I went through the comments and I still haven't seen anyone post a single mechanical keyboard that matches my requirements at any price point. It's just dozens of posts about needing to be a keyboard surgeon and assembling a selection of carefully picked pieces without any end to end guides. For the most part I just want to plug it in, have it feel good and wri…
http://www.realforce.co.jp/en/products/R2SA-US4-IV/index.htm...
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The whole deal with mechanical keyboards feels to me a lot like putting too much emphasis on the rig without real justification. Sure extremely skilled people do need the extra performance in some circumstances, but chances are the rig is not used by extremely skilled. And have seen it in a lot of fields and I've actually been culpable of it: * competitive sailing: I've done quite a bit of dinghy sailing and regattas…
It is conceivably possible to spend $1000+ on a keyboard (if you get in a bidding war for a rare antique on ebay or hire someone to design and build something bespoke), but for the most part the price of new keyboards is about $50–$250. This is not really comparable to the other expensive hobbies you described.
2) the mechanical keyboards is only one item, a gaming rig or a good laptop could cost you 1 or 2 thousands dollars if not more. It's just that mechanical keyboards is where I see far more behavior in the line "these plebs who don't know better". And in term of relative cost, first time I heard 150$ for a keyboard, I was a bit puzzled, in my mind, a keyboard cost between 5 and 15$, so at least 10 times less.
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It is conceivably possible to spend $1000+ on a keyboard (if you get in a bidding war for a rare antique on ebay or hire someone to design and build something bespoke), but for the most part the price of new keyboards is about $50–$250. This is not really comparable to the other expensive hobbies you described.
1) the cost aspect is only part of the equation, my point is also on the attitude of people 2) the mechanical keyboards is only one item, a gaming rig or a good laptop could cost you 1 or 2 thousands dollars if not more. It's just that mechanical keyboards is where I see far more behavior in the line "these plebs who don't know better". And in term of relative cost, first time I heard 150$ for a keyboard, I was a bit…
Since then there has been a relentless 30+ year focus on cost cutting, and the elaborate engineering and expensive production that went into 1970s keyboards is no longer economically viable.
> see far more behavior in the line "these plebs who don't know better".
Personally I find that typing on a nice keyboard (which might be something picked up for $15 on ebay) makes a significant difference in typing speed, accuracy, and comfort.
Everyone I have ever met who was excited about keyboards (from casual users of split ergonomic keyboards or old keyboards salvaged from their own obsolete 80s computers up through hard-core DIYers with dozens of hand-soldered prototypes and hard-core collectors with hundreds of keyboards filling up their houses) was enthusiastic and friendly, excited to share their ideas and experiences.
People who spend their whole career typing and don’t know that they could find a better experience are missing out, and might enjoy trying some alternatives.
YMMV.
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Most engineers with jobs aren't making compromises on the price when their goal is comfort and usability.
You're right. I bought a $250 Leopold FC660C to combat repetitive strain injury, because my doctor said to minimize the distance between the home row and my mouse pad. But most less-expensive 60% ("ten key-less") boards either lack arrow keys or have obnoxious, loud switches. These weren't feasible because I use arrow keys all the time for Visual Studio and I work in open-office hell. The Leopold has quiet Topre swit…
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_lis...
