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Re: Android 10

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Post by bytematic »

vladdanilov wrote: post #138

The website assets are optimized in a rather strange way. The total page weight of ~20MB is huge for mobile. The images are heavily compressed using WebP lossy with quite noticeable blockiness and washed out textures and fine details, but squeezed into 1MB, yet the videos are only lightly compressed, and make up most of the page weight. Had they been compressed with libx264 at good quality, the page weight would be m…

Interesting considering one of the top comments on reddit is how smooth and quick to load this page is

Re: Android 10

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Post by oehtXRwMkIs »

ptx wrote: post #86
placatedmayhem wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just green bubbles. Tapbacks are awkward and pictures and videos don't send as reliably. With my "green bubble" friends, we usually use Telegram or Signal or Keybase instead. I'd love to see a standardized IM/Text protocol instead of 1000 fragmented platforms. I've got on the order of 10 chat apps on my phone right now, all used in different contexts.

Try Matrix[1]. It's a protocol specification with multiple open-source implementations. It has federation so that you can choose which server to use (or run your own) and still communicate with everyone else. It has end-to-end encryption (although at the moment it only works in one client, but it's coming along). [1] https://matrix.org/

Agreed, it's like signal on steroids.

Re: Android 10

#193

Post by Rockslide »

TwoNineA wrote: post #15
dddddaviddddd wrote: post #12

This should be available for Pixel phones sometime today, right?

Yes, and other Android phones probably never, except some current flagships who'll get it in 6+ months.

Currently installing the update on my ~200$ Essential Phone - I mean it's not like there aren't good Android vendors, but obviously the majority of buyers don't vote with their wallet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Android 10

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Post by wozniacki »

Has someone done a thorough deep dive into both iOS and Android's privacy stances as of current writing?

I ask the following since most of my friends just don't know which of the two to trust anymore although they clearly dont trust Google more. Not so much that they would consider getting a Librem 5[1] but are very wary of either OS given the spate of privacy violations in general, off late and given the heightened concerns over the surveillance era we currently live in.

So I ask, have they found conclusive evidence for either iOS or Android to be putting money where their mouth is, exclusively in the areas of privacy and customer data protection?

Or is it just mostly glib statements with not much in the way of substantive deployments to safeguard users?

Sundar Pichai recently said something on the lines of "Privacy should not be a luxury good", subtly taking a dig at Apple.

   "To make privacy real, we give you clear, meaningful 
   choices around your data. All while staying true to two
   unequivocal policies: that Google will never sell any
   personal information to third parties; and that you get
   to decide how your information is used.[2]
Is there any meat to any of this, as of this writing?

Simply put if you didn't mind sacrificing a few bells and whistles which of the two OSes would your next phone have? Android or iOS?

[1] Librem 5 smartphone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem#Librem_5_smartphone

[2] Google’s Sundar Pichai: Privacy Should Not Be a Luxury Good

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/opinion/google-sundar-pic...

Re: Android 10

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Post by gpm »

bytematic wrote: post #191
vladdanilov wrote: post #138

The website assets are optimized in a rather strange way. The total page weight of ~20MB is huge for mobile. The images are heavily compressed using WebP lossy with quite noticeable blockiness and washed out textures and fine details, but squeezed into 1MB, yet the videos are only lightly compressed, and make up most of the page weight. Had they been compressed with libx264 at good quality, the page weight would be m…

Interesting considering one of the top comments on reddit is how smooth and quick to load this page is

Presumably videos don't need to fully load for the page to appear loaded?

Re: Android 10

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Post by Godel_unicode »

jquery wrote: post #164
dochtman wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please stop advocating for Telegram: https://gizmodo.com/why-you-should-stop-using-telegram-right... https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/987372998935105539 Signal is definitely the more secure choice, but Whatsapp is still king of the network effect at least in my neck of the woods.

That Gizmodo article is 3 years old, is it still true?

The tptacek tweet is not, and yes.

Re: Android 10

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Post by Godel_unicode »

wozniacki wrote: post #179
dochtman wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please stop advocating for Telegram: https://gizmodo.com/why-you-should-stop-using-telegram-right... https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/987372998935105539 Signal is definitely the more secure choice, but Whatsapp is still king of the network effect at least in my neck of the woods.

Could you elaborate on why you single out Telegram as a privacy deal-breaker as opposed to other similar apps? If they all are just as bad, is there something coming up on the near horizon thats worth the wait?

They are replying to a comment about Telegram, and mention other messaging apps which are better. They also do not say that they're all just as bad, unclear where you got that from?

Re: Android 10

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Post by nxc18 »

elbrian wrote: post #163
camone wrote: post #83

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Also as a recent iOS user, I don't understand why. Other than live captions, sound amp and family link, most new features have been on iOS for a while, and will actually improve on iOS 13 (e.g. apps have to ask for location access each time, besides the current 3 options). Seems like they're trying to catch up to iOS.

What is difficult to understand about OP wanting features that iOS does not offer?

Its more the massive privacy, security, longevity, and performance penalty you pay switching to Android that causes concern.

Android has some nifty features depending on device, but the core experience just isn’t there. (E.g. I figured chrome on Android has to be faster than Chrome on iOS - nope, my XR consistently beat a Pixel 3 side-by-side)

My iPhone 6S from 2015 is still in service and fast; I gave it to my mom when I upgraded and she’s very happy with it. It still gets updates.

Re: Android 10

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Post by vitobcn »

wuliwong wrote: post #162
JohnFen wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the social pressure (in the US at least) is insane. This isn't a US-wide thing. This is about the priorities of a certain subculture, nothing more. Your friends just happen to be embedded in that subculture. My condolences.

The subculture of people who have iPhones? As much as Apple would want this to be, I don't believe there is a cohesive subculture that describes all iPhone users.

In my experience, in most countries (and outside the US especially) WhatsApp has already won the network effects battle, and it's the default messaging app in any smartphone. Even people with iPhone will all have WhatsApp installed.
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