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CamScanner, a malicious Android app with more than 100M downloads in Google Play

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Re: CamScanner, a malicious Android app with more than 100M downloads in Google Play

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Right because every part of the OS consist of the apps. First you said that there weren’t any statistics and now that I post statistics from Google they are “nonsensical”. Do you have any more reliable numbers or just more conjecture? Because in your world, it is more secure to not be able to update the entire OS than to have to do a reboot.....

> now that I post statistics from Google they are “nonsensical”. Your statistics are for a nonsensical metric as I have repeatedly pointed out. The correct statistic is how quickly Android devices that are known to get updates get updates because those are the only devices that anybody who cares about security updates should buy. > Because in your world, it is more secure to not be able to update the entire OS than t…

The correct statistic is how quickly Android devices that are known to get updates get updates because those are the only devices that anybody who cares about security updates should buy.

So that’s “the correct statistic” as long as you ignore the literally billion Android phones that don’t get updates compared to the 0% of iPhones that were introduced since 2011 that haven’t gotten an update in the last 3 months.

In other news, everyone in the US is rich as long as you ignore all of the poor people....

It is more secure to have a device that updates the base system quickly and updates the apps instantly without the user noticing. ^

So the “base system” consists of applications* not the underlying operating system....

In 30+ years of being in the computer industry professionally and as a hobbyist, I’ve never heard anyone consider applications as the “base system”.

It is more secure to have a device that updates the base system quickly and updates the apps instantly without the user noticing. There are devices that do that, and there are devices that don't. The devices that don't are so inferior to the devices that do that they shouldn't be used.

So the vast majority of Android phones shouldn’t be used and none should be used considering the average amount of time people are keeping their phones is longer than the time that any manufacturer is supporting them?

So 90%+ of all Android phones “shouldn’t be used” even if you’re charitable and ignore the phones that only get updated for a couple of years....

Btw, to get a clue about how an ecosystem should work where one company is responsible for the operating system and other companies sell the hardware, look no further than Microsoft. Not only are one of my computers that is used as a Plex server over 10 years old and still running the latest version of Windows (a Dell Core 2 Duo circa 2009), my mom is still using my old Mac Mini circa 2006 running a supported version of Windows 7.

Re: CamScanner, a malicious Android app with more than 100M downloads in Google Play

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> now that I post statistics from Google they are “nonsensical”. Your statistics are for a nonsensical metric as I have repeatedly pointed out. The correct statistic is how quickly Android devices that are known to get updates get updates because those are the only devices that anybody who cares about security updates should buy. > Because in your world, it is more secure to not be able to update the entire OS than t…

The correct statistic is how quickly Android devices that are known to get updates get updates because those are the only devices that anybody who cares about security updates should buy. So that’s “the correct statistic” as long as you ignore the literally billion Android phones that don’t get updates compared to the 0% of iPhones that were introduced since 2011 that haven’t gotten an update in the last 3 months. In…

> So that’s “the correct statistic” as long as you ignore the literally billion Android phones that don’t get updates compared to the 0% of iPhones that were introduced since 2011 that haven’t gotten an update in the last 3 months

How many times do I have to repeat that it doesn't make sense to group all Android devices together just like it doesn't make any sense to group all phones together?

> So 90%+ of all Android phones “shouldn’t be used”

Yes! That's what I've been trying to tell you! 90% of Android phones shouldn't be used, and 100% of iOS phones shouldn't be used. How is it that you still do not understand this?

> So the “base system” consists of applications* not the underlying operating system....

That explains it. I specifically separated base system, which gets updated quickly with reboots, from applications, which get updated transparently without reboots, and through some incredibly poor reading comprehension, you understood this as saying both are the same.

Re: CamScanner, a malicious Android app with more than 100M downloads in Google Play

#153

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The correct statistic is how quickly Android devices that are known to get updates get updates because those are the only devices that anybody who cares about security updates should buy. So that’s “the correct statistic” as long as you ignore the literally billion Android phones that don’t get updates compared to the 0% of iPhones that were introduced since 2011 that haven’t gotten an update in the last 3 months. In…

> So that’s “the correct statistic” as long as you ignore the literally billion Android phones that don’t get updates compared to the 0% of iPhones that were introduced since 2011 that haven’t gotten an update in the last 3 months How many times do I have to repeat that it doesn't make sense to group all Android devices together just like it doesn't make any sense to group all phones together? > So 90%+ of all Androi…

Yes! That's what I've been trying to tell you! 90% of Android phones shouldn't be used, and 100% of iOS phones shouldn't be used. How is it that you still do not understand this?

So no personal computer should ever be used since you have to reboot to receive security patches. But I guess in that case even Windows 95 was secure since you could update applications without rebooting....

Re: CamScanner, a malicious Android app with more than 100M downloads in Google Play

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So that’s “the correct statistic” as long as you ignore the literally billion Android phones that don’t get updates compared to the 0% of iPhones that were introduced since 2011 that haven’t gotten an update in the last 3 months How many times do I have to repeat that it doesn't make sense to group all Android devices together just like it doesn't make any sense to group all phones together? > So 90%+ of all Androi…

Yes! That's what I've been trying to tell you! 90% of Android phones shouldn't be used, and 100% of iOS phones shouldn't be used. How is it that you still do not understand this? So no personal computer should ever be used since you have to reboot to receive security patches. But I guess in that case even Windows 95 was secure since you could update applications without rebooting....

> So no personal computer should ever be used since you have to reboot to receive security patches.

Nope. Try reading my comments again. The base system has to be rebooted when receiving updates. Personal computers, just like Android devices, do not need to reboot when updating the web browser or a messaging app. iOS is so poorly architected that it cannot do this.

Re: CamScanner, a malicious Android app with more than 100M downloads in Google Play

#155
So does the ad network just get away with this? Isn't it criminal to spread malware like this? Seems they were in a serious business relation with CamScanner, not some seedy underground place.

Do other apps run the same ad library, do they run the same risk?

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