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A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by Intermernet »

mcv wrote: post #93
Intermernet wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, in this instance, defines "Catholic" and "science"? Science relies more on disbelief than belief. Faith is anathema to the scientific method. You can disagree, but you should be able to make a cogent argument as to why what I just typed is incorrect.

You can be both Christian and do science without the science having to be "Christian science". They are different concerns dealing with different things. They don't have to conflict at all unless you try to make them conflict.

You can also, as a scientist, use both general relativity and quantum mechanics. They are also different concerns dealing with different things. They still conflict. At least one of them is, and possibly both are, wrong.

There is crossover in the Venn diagrams of religion and science. History has shown that as scientific knowledge increases, the area that religion has previously laid claim to decreases.

They definitely, and historically, conflict until you're left with religion laying claim to the area that is un-provable, and therefore, un-falsifiable. This is the root of the "god-of-the-gaps" fallacy, and seems to be usually only met with the "fine-tuned-universe" theory, which is, if you think about it, a circular argument at best, and self defeating at worst.

Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by longtom »

kingbruce90 wrote: post #88
longtom wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"ContraPoints" is not an education channel.

Political education is education even if it's also propaganda (in the sense of information designed to persuade). A large number of political YouTube channels across the political spectrum could be called educational.

No, it's something like political satire or political entertainment. If the category education should mean anything then it certainly does not include a man pretending to be a woman pushing political agendas in some completely overblown and sexualized manner. This is ridiculous.

Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by GoodJokes »

Nition wrote: post #32
jetru wrote: post #7

So true. So many people I know and myself included are tired of the "rat race". We don't want to keep working for nothing, we don't want to keep hoping for that next raise, we don't want to pretend to be smarter or cooler or better than we are. What a horrible way to live in the age of plenty. Maybe, we like cold pizza. Bougey is a dirty word. We want to chill. We want fairness. Simplicity is where Happiness lies. Th…

Do you know Epicureanism?[1] Basically what you're describing. > Epicurus believed that what he called "pleasure" (ἡδονή) was the greatest good, but that the way to attain such pleasure was to live modestly, to gain knowledge of the workings of the world, and to limit one's desires. This would lead one to attain a state of tranquility (ataraxia) and freedom from fear as well as an absence of bodily pain (aponia). It'…

Drink! Someone trying to stan stoics in an HN thread.

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Post by fareesh »

dade_ wrote: post #87
fareesh wrote: post #73

For those who work there - I am curious, I occasionally come across complaints online that much of Silicon Valley and tech companies have a large "dirtbag left" (not my term, I am referencing what is written in the article) contingent of employees, who actively "cleanse" their ranks of all right-leaning employees. I am inclined to believe this because of past stories involving the Mozilla CEO and the Occulus CEO and…

America is so far right of center, many of the so called dirt bag left are actually center right. However, in my experience extreme right wing social conservatives can be pretty good at self-cleansing by constantly sharing their amazing opinions on superior races, the problem with 'those people' and my favorite, informing people that they are living in sin.

In the present tense the problem of bigotry seems universal regardless of political affiliation. It is just the category of people who are discriminated against, that changes, depending on the offending party's preferences

Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by zrobotics »

mcv wrote: post #69

The article identifies a culture war between the ordinary and the transcendent, and sees in the Patreon top 50 that the ordinary has won, but it doesn't do a great job of how it determines how it classifies the entries. Apparently a political podcast is ordinary, things that are NSFW or dealing with history are ordinary, and photos of New Yorkers are ordinary. The only things it considers transcendent are educational…

Especially as there are creators like 3blue1brown on that list. The videos 3blue1brown does should certainly be considered transcendent in the classical sense, those are easily the highest quality math education videos I've ever seen. The linear algebra series definitely expanded my appreciation for the subject in a way no textbook has ever done.

Sure, there is crap like MxR Mods on the list, but there is also stuff like crash course & clickspring. I don't know if I'd call clickspring's videos themselves art, but what he is producing in his shop is certainly art and the opportunity to view the process is just magnificent; this is certainly a channel that shows how great online video can be.

And Contrapoints; while very much political, does an excellent job of engaging with topics much more deeply than what one normally reads in publications like Bloomberg. I honestly found reading this list encouraging; most of the top 50 creators definitely deserve that place and I'm glad that the people benefiting most from Patreon deserve it. Aside from MxR, he's a cancer on the Bethesda modding scene.

Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by ulisesrmzroche »

phoe-krk wrote: post #98
coldtea wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This. Why should I allow anyone to define what kinds of art should I find transcendent and, worse, which kinds of art are non-transcendent? Because else you're in an endless loop, where you define what you like by what you like. It is (or, perhaps, it has been) generally understood, that being schooled into things, learning about them, their history, aesthetic rivalries and ideas abotu them, and appreciating the cu…

You misunderstood my question. I asked, "Why should I allow anyone to define what kinds of art should I find transcendent and, worse, which kinds of art are non-transcendent?", with a stress on the " I ". I find it worthwhile to listen to people who describe what touches them and what they are indifferent to. However, the tone of the article describes the "mundane" and the "extraordinary" from an objectivesque point…

It’s not inherently subjective. There’s good and shit.

Like how there’s good code and shit code.

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