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The Urban Planning Behind America’s Weirdest McDonald’s

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Re: The Urban Planning Behind America’s Weirdest McDonald’s

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Personally I find that going into a standard cookie-cutter instance of a franchise is depressing; they're usually built with pleasing aesthetics low on the list of priorities, far below "cheap", "easy to hose down", and "does not encourage customers lingering". Going into one that's been shaped by a place with an aesthetic agenda results in something that's got a few surprises, and has design flourishes that exist so…

Honest question: why do you think that the older buildings didn't "maximize profit" for their creators?

Here, have a look at a representative sample of images: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=new+orleans+french+quarter&bext=ms...

Just look at any of those wrought iron railings. From a purely functional viewpoint they could do their job of being a railing to stop you from falling off the balcony with a series of plain vertical bars. But they are these elaborate concoctions of decoration and detail that someone had to cast, bend, and shape. You'll find similar aesthetic choices made throughout the city; a lot of houses have wrought iron bars over their windows to deter breakins, and very few of them are the simplest, cheapest design possible, for instance.

I am quite sure these buildings have made a profit; hell, the ones in the French Quarter are a big part of the modern tourist economy that draws people and money from all over. But there are a lot of details all over that serve purely to make the buildings pleasing to live and work in, which tend to be the first thing to go in modern architecture driven entirely by maximizing profits (and also still in love with the inhuman brutalist visions of people like Le Corbusier, when it comes to building housing).

Re: The Urban Planning Behind America’s Weirdest McDonald’s

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There are so many examples of this sort of thing. I am frustrated by the ease with which buildings are declared historical sites and how often that designation happens after somebody buys a piece of property to develop it. I think it would be far fairer to the purchaser (and the seller, who makes out like a bandit unfairly) to mandate a 90 day stay when a large parcel is sold to allow for filing of historical paperwo…

What does any of this have to do with McDonald's?

Re: The Urban Planning Behind America’s Weirdest McDonald’s

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There are so many examples of this sort of thing. I am frustrated by the ease with which buildings are declared historical sites and how often that designation happens after somebody buys a piece of property to develop it. I think it would be far fairer to the purchaser (and the seller, who makes out like a bandit unfairly) to mandate a 90 day stay when a large parcel is sold to allow for filing of historical paperwo…

What does any of this have to do with McDonald's?

Or as we say on Twitter, "Sir, this is a Wendy's."

Re: The Urban Planning Behind America’s Weirdest McDonald’s

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Honest question: why do you think that the older buildings didn't "maximize profit" for their creators?

Here, have a look at a representative sample of images: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=new+orleans+french+quarter&bext=ms... Just look at any of those wrought iron railings. From a purely functional viewpoint they could do their job of being a railing to stop you from falling off the balcony with a series of plain vertical bars. But they are these elaborate concoctions of decoration and detail that someone had to cast, be…

But making a building aesthetically pleasing usually is for the purpose of increasing profit (attracting tenants, etc).

Any building where the owner is worried about resale value or attracting long-term customers who care about visual appeal is incentivized not to cut corners if it’s any kind of buyer’s market.

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There are so many examples of this sort of thing. I am frustrated by the ease with which buildings are declared historical sites and how often that designation happens after somebody buys a piece of property to develop it. I think it would be far fairer to the purchaser (and the seller, who makes out like a bandit unfairly) to mandate a 90 day stay when a large parcel is sold to allow for filing of historical paperwo…

> There are so many examples of this sort of thing. I am frustrated by the ease with which buildings are declared historical sites and how often that designation happens after somebody

The flip side of this is that developers don’t have a good record. Cheap, badly done developments and a history of buying, then revealing their true plans. “Oh, it turned out to be structurally unstable, so we have to demolish”.

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Honest question: why do you think that the older buildings didn't "maximize profit" for their creators?

Not the GP, but I think that the optimizations that lead each locality to have a distinct look came from local minima and maxima (e.g. availability of building materials, local construction practices, function of the building, desire to please the local population, as well as profit maximization), while the average McDonald's, as a for-instance of corporate design, comes from much more global minima and maxima. It's…

Right, the iconic look of the buildings in Paris is entirely a result of a regulatory loophole on building height and the Parisians “maximizing profit” in that environment.

Re: The Urban Planning Behind America’s Weirdest McDonald’s

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There are so many examples of this sort of thing. I am frustrated by the ease with which buildings are declared historical sites and how often that designation happens after somebody buys a piece of property to develop it. I think it would be far fairer to the purchaser (and the seller, who makes out like a bandit unfairly) to mandate a 90 day stay when a large parcel is sold to allow for filing of historical paperwo…

> There are so many examples of this sort of thing. I am frustrated by the ease with which buildings are declared historical sites and how often that designation happens after somebody The flip side of this is that developers don’t have a good record. Cheap, badly done developments and a history of buying, then revealing their true plans. “Oh, it turned out to be structurally unstable, so we have to demolish”.

Most new development in the US look terrible indeed. I’d rather get overprotection than those buildings everywhere in my city.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: why do you think that the older buildings didn't "maximize profit" for their creators?

Here, have a look at a representative sample of images: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=new+orleans+french+quarter&bext=ms... Just look at any of those wrought iron railings. From a purely functional viewpoint they could do their job of being a railing to stop you from falling off the balcony with a series of plain vertical bars. But they are these elaborate concoctions of decoration and detail that someone had to cast, be…

Maximizing profit is not always achieved by going for pure function over form. A lot of places try to maximize profit by making a place aesthetically pleasing so more people come.

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> There are so many examples of this sort of thing. I am frustrated by the ease with which buildings are declared historical sites and how often that designation happens after somebody The flip side of this is that developers don’t have a good record. Cheap, badly done developments and a history of buying, then revealing their true plans. “Oh, it turned out to be structurally unstable, so we have to demolish”.

Most new development in the US look terrible indeed. I’d rather get overprotection than those buildings everywhere in my city.

And what about the subsequent pressure on new ever growing need for housing?
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