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Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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I don't like Elon because his company branded existing technology in a misleading way and pushed it past it's safe limits and people died. I don't like Elon because he went on Twitter to blame them for dying when he's also the one who likes to coyly imply your hands are only on the wheel for government reasons. I don't like Elon because of the foolish 420 tweet and his subsequent interactions with the SEC. I don't li…

I am curious about this one: “I don't like Elon because his company branded existing technology in a misleading way and pushed it past it's safe limits and people died.” Most of the other ones vary in magnitude and specificity, but it’s fine with me if you don’t like Elon, he is a polarizing figure right now.

I know this goes against culture on here, but I'll say it anyways.

It's _very_ strange that my comment above was flagged, while the comment it replied to was not.

I didn't say "I don't like Elon because he's a big stinky doodoo head", I gave legitimate missteps he and his company have made, some of which came at the cost of human life.

And it wasn't non-sequitur, I am replying to a comment about his detractors and thought it plenty fair to show my rationale for being one of them

If anything the comment it's replying to attempts to denigrate a large group of people in the hand-waviest way possible. I mean "they have the same blocklists on Twitter", really? This is the level of discourse that's acceptable while my comment is somehow unacceptable?

And to be clear, I don't think any comment in this thread should be flagged, it's silly the parent post to that comment is also flagged. People often say "We're all adults" to imply somehow no negative commentary should exist. To me "We're all adults" means we should all be capable of reading a comment with a negative tone without having a meltdown. Especially if the negatively toned comment has actual objective content.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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I wonder what sort of shift happened in recent history such that S Africa is now a region where “electricity supply is erratic or non-existent.”

In the past, only privileged few used to have access to electricity in Southern Africa. Now almost everyone has access to electricity within two decades of ending of apartheid/colonisation. Having access to electricity is no longer a luxury for the privileged few. Electriticity infrastructure was built to provide electricity to privileged few. That's the biggest shift. By the way, I have access to electricity everyda…

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Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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Friend when she was in a poor part of Africa noted that the local cell tower had two armed guards. Her host told that a few years prior they had a single guard. Thieves came and killed him with a chainsaw and stole the generators. So now the guards are armed with machine guns and there are two of them.

Are you sure they were using machine guns? That would either imply they are part of the military of zimbabwe's gun laws are very loose.

I bet it helps to yell "Stop in the name of the law!" when thieves with chainsaws run towards you.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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I wonder what sort of shift happened in recent history such that S Africa is now a region where “electricity supply is erratic or non-existent.”

In the past, only privileged few used to have access to electricity in Southern Africa. Now almost everyone has access to electricity within two decades of ending of apartheid/colonisation. Having access to electricity is no longer a luxury for the privileged few. Electriticity infrastructure was built to provide electricity to privileged few. That's the biggest shift. By the way, I have access to electricity everyda…

> Electriticity infrastructure was built to provide electricity to privileged few

What group of people built the "electricity infrastructure" you now enjoy? And if they hadn't built it, do you think you would have access to dependable electricity right now?

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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The same benefit of using a reserve currency, such as USD. That being that it can't be inflated by the government.

Good old stable-valued bitcoin.

Compared to the inflation rate of Zimbabwe?

I'll take crypto currency any day, over a guaranteed 40% loss every year. At least crypto has the chance of going up.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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The same benefit of using a reserve currency, such as USD. That being that it can't be inflated by the government.

Crypto is a lot more volatile than the USD (or a basket of currencies). That's why Coinbase created Stablecoin.

But it is still a lot less volatile than the Zimbabwe dollar.

This is not about replacing money in the US. It is about replacing money in countries where there is already a huge inflation rate.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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In the past, only privileged few used to have access to electricity in Southern Africa. Now almost everyone has access to electricity within two decades of ending of apartheid/colonisation. Having access to electricity is no longer a luxury for the privileged few. Electriticity infrastructure was built to provide electricity to privileged few. That's the biggest shift. By the way, I have access to electricity everyda…

> Electriticity infrastructure was built to provide electricity to privileged few What group of people built the "electricity infrastructure" you now enjoy? And if they hadn't built it, do you think you would have access to dependable electricity right now?

All groups of people found in South Africa were involved in building the infrastructure that I am using and paying for. Beside, that shouldn't even matter because it was state's resources which were used. Even now, it is state resources which are being used to build electricity infrastructure to replace the old.

What matters is that now the infrastructure is built for all group of people. In 5 years'time, the infrastructure will be completely new [1]. But still, no group of people should claim that they did us a favour by using state's resources to build the infrastructure. It is their job to provide electricity for all citizens.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Sout...

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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In the past, only privileged few used to have access to electricity in Southern Africa. Now almost everyone has access to electricity within two decades of ending of apartheid/colonisation. Having access to electricity is no longer a luxury for the privileged few. Electriticity infrastructure was built to provide electricity to privileged few. That's the biggest shift. By the way, I have access to electricity everyda…

> Electriticity infrastructure was built to provide electricity to privileged few What group of people built the "electricity infrastructure" you now enjoy? And if they hadn't built it, do you think you would have access to dependable electricity right now?

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