This is big because to a lot of people at lower scale, price doesn't matter as much as compute density. AMD now excells in all 3 relevant criteria: density, initial cost and running cost (e.g. power)
Dual AMD EPYC 7742 Crushes Quad Intel Xeon 8180M's in Geekbench 4
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Re: Dual AMD EPYC 7742 Crushes Quad Intel Xeon 8180M's in Geekbench 4
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
To save non-PC-gamers a Googling: "CSGO" here refers to "Counter Strike: Global Offensive", a popular multi-player first-person shooter. It's part of the Counter-Strike series, which traces its roots back to the year 2000.
Why is it being used as a subjective benchmark 19 years later? Haven't gamers moved on a dozen times since then?
It's the more recent sequel that's being tested here.
Re: Dual AMD EPYC 7742 Crushes Quad Intel Xeon 8180M's in Geekbench 4
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is it being used as a subjective benchmark 19 years later? Haven't gamers moved on a dozen times since then?
CS:GO is still played internationally and there are also professional tournaments. So I would say that it is still a relevant benchmark.
I agree that people still play it. But looking at the system requirements:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/730/CounterStrike_Global_...
I am hard-pressed to say that it looks like a suitable benchmark. It's hard to find a desktop CPU released in the past five years that can't provide good performance for a game like that.
Re: Dual AMD EPYC 7742 Crushes Quad Intel Xeon 8180M's in Geekbench 4
#44The articles will keep flowing for months/years and it'll become conventional wisdom that Epyc always pummels Intel. Intel marketing must be on Defcon 1.
This happened to Intel with Athlon and Opteron back in the early 2000s. Intel came back swinging pretty fast. They might this time too. In any case the consumer wins. Intel needed a swift kick in the butt.
Re: Dual AMD EPYC 7742 Crushes Quad Intel Xeon 8180M's in Geekbench 4
#45> 54 / 128 Cores / Threads Should it be 64/128?
According to AMDs specs ( https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-epyc-7742 ), yes, it should.
Re: Dual AMD EPYC 7742 Crushes Quad Intel Xeon 8180M's in Geekbench 4
#46"You're getting 24.83% more performance while costing 73.29% less."
This is a terrible performance summary. Let's try to normalize it in terms of Geekbench points / $:
Intel = 155050 / $52044 = 2.97 / $
AMD = 193554 / $13011 = 14.88 / $
5X. That's incredible.
Re: Dual AMD EPYC 7742 Crushes Quad Intel Xeon 8180M's in Geekbench 4
#47I'm not defending Intel or even particularly have a positive opinion of Intel overall but I don't know how accurate this test is considering the difference in Linux kernel versions used in this benchmark. According to the article the Intel system is running a 3.10 kernel (doesn't say which distro but I'm pretty sure it's RHEL 7 or CentOS 7) while the EPYC system is running Ubuntu 19.04 with the latest 5.0 kernel. Also I'm not sure if the 3.10 kernel they're running on the Xeon system has been patched for Meltdown and Spectre which would could also affect the performance. I doubt it would amount to a significant difference in performance but usually benchmarks tests like this use the same OS and software stack for the tests.
Re: Dual AMD EPYC 7742 Crushes Quad Intel Xeon 8180M's in Geekbench 4
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
To save non-PC-gamers a Googling: "CSGO" here refers to "Counter Strike: Global Offensive", a popular multi-player first-person shooter. It's part of the Counter-Strike series, which traces its roots back to the year 2000.
Why is it being used as a subjective benchmark 19 years later? Haven't gamers moved on a dozen times since then?
CS:GO was released in 2012. Majors (international competitions sponsored by the developers) have a million dollar prize pool.
Re: Dual AMD EPYC 7742 Crushes Quad Intel Xeon 8180M's in Geekbench 4
#49The articles will keep flowing for months/years and it'll become conventional wisdom that Epyc always pummels Intel. Intel marketing must be on Defcon 1.
The only thing holding up Intel at the moment is their gaming IPC. Should AMD crack that then it'll be brutal for them (if it isn't already).
Since you mention gaming IPC (which isn't really a main factor in server CPU lineups), I would say Intel is still way ahead of AMD in terms of mobility lineups.
It's going to be interesting to see the Zen 2 mobile chips.
Re: Dual AMD EPYC 7742 Crushes Quad Intel Xeon 8180M's in Geekbench 4
#50"You're getting 24.83% more performance while costing 73.29% less." This is a terrible performance summary. Let's try to normalize it in terms of Geekbench points / $: Intel = 155050 / $52044 = 2.97 / $ AMD = 193554 / $13011 = 14.88 / $ AMD has a 5x advantage on the price of the CPU alone, not factoring in the price of the motherboard and other components (this is a 4 socket Intel motherboard vs. a dual socket AMD).…
And don’t forget power consumption.