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A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by xxxpupugo »

andybak wrote: post #2

What a bizarre distinction. I'm not even sure I understand the classification. Art can make the ordinary transcendent - it's the treatment not the subject matter.

It seems the author believes that American as an identity bares great significance that Americans were and should be destined to greatness, or at least in favor of such ambitious ideals.

But let's be honest. The idea of human has mission to achieve greatness by itself is, just a belief. Human life can be any form it needs to be, if the owner him/herself desires so. And the in the age of internet, it is easy to at least observe afar what your desired life would be like by watching others do it. I'd argue people are much aware and resourceful to decide what he/she wants to be, and being ordinary yet full-filling is perfectly fine goal to pursue, and it is arguably not easy still.

Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by Freak_NL »

jetru wrote: post #7

So true. So many people I know and myself included are tired of the "rat race". We don't want to keep working for nothing, we don't want to keep hoping for that next raise, we don't want to pretend to be smarter or cooler or better than we are. What a horrible way to live in the age of plenty. Maybe, we like cold pizza. Bougey is a dirty word. We want to chill. We want fairness. Simplicity is where Happiness lies. Th…

In case anyone else gets stuck on 'bougey', it is apparently an abbreviation of bourgeoisie.

Is this US slang?

Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by palebluedot »

Freak_NL wrote: post #13
jetru wrote: post #7

So true. So many people I know and myself included are tired of the "rat race". We don't want to keep working for nothing, we don't want to keep hoping for that next raise, we don't want to pretend to be smarter or cooler or better than we are. What a horrible way to live in the age of plenty. Maybe, we like cold pizza. Bougey is a dirty word. We want to chill. We want fairness. Simplicity is where Happiness lies. Th…

In case anyone else gets stuck on 'bougey', it is apparently an abbreviation of bourgeoisie . Is this US slang?

Yes, and as far as I can tell, relatively new. I learned it from my middle school child last year.

Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by phoe-krk »

nindalf wrote: post #8

Not sure how the author decides what is ordinary and what is transcendent. According to him, there is nothing special about folks creating podcasts, but there is something special about a singer-songwriter. He does not say why. Take https://www.patreon.com/sonicether who earns $50k a month creating shaders for Minecraft. That sounds mundane until you realise that he's probably enabling tens of thousands of people to…

> Not sure how the author decides what is ordinary and what is transcendent.

This. Why should I allow anyone to define what kinds of art should I find transcendent and, worse, which kinds of art are non-transcendent?

This article is weird and full of stereotypes; it's written from the point as if art was easily and objectively classifiable. No, art is not classifiable like that, and something that one man calls everyday trash can be eye-opening and mind-blowing to another. This fact alone disproves the main assumption that this article is based on, and breaks the point of the whole article for me.

Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by LogicX »

Freak_NL wrote: post #13
jetru wrote: post #7

So true. So many people I know and myself included are tired of the "rat race". We don't want to keep working for nothing, we don't want to keep hoping for that next raise, we don't want to pretend to be smarter or cooler or better than we are. What a horrible way to live in the age of plenty. Maybe, we like cold pizza. Bougey is a dirty word. We want to chill. We want fairness. Simplicity is where Happiness lies. Th…

In case anyone else gets stuck on 'bougey', it is apparently an abbreviation of bourgeoisie . Is this US slang?

Yes, I think it's actually out of vogue now, but a few years ago it was trendy to describe things as bougey:

bougey

(pronounced: boo-G) a condensed version of the word bourgeoise, used to refer to capitalists, the upper class, gaudiness, and profit-oriented viewpoints

http://bougey.urbanup.com/4157958

Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by kipari »

Freak_NL wrote: post #13
jetru wrote: post #7

So true. So many people I know and myself included are tired of the "rat race". We don't want to keep working for nothing, we don't want to keep hoping for that next raise, we don't want to pretend to be smarter or cooler or better than we are. What a horrible way to live in the age of plenty. Maybe, we like cold pizza. Bougey is a dirty word. We want to chill. We want fairness. Simplicity is where Happiness lies. Th…

In case anyone else gets stuck on 'bougey', it is apparently an abbreviation of bourgeoisie . Is this US slang?

Usually it's spelled 'bougie' cf. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bougie

Re: A list of the top recipients on Patreon shows an obsession with the ordinary

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Post by raxxorrax »

I cannot really understand the perspective of this assesment.

Perhaps these "ordinary ambitions" have become something unachievable by so many people, that it can highlight the relativity of the statement itself?

Starting "culture wars" about mundane shit isn't my definition of extraordinary either. If so, Burger King vs. McDonalds could be a culture war.

But compare that content to former reality TV and I can only see improvement everywhere.

On the other hand, I don't mind the loss of splendor, pomp and royal weddings. I do like architecture and jazz though.

But yes, I would prefer to have an "ordinary" house first instead of some abstract effort to build the pyramids 2.0. Does the author work for a bank?

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