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Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

#61

Tangential but as an effort to go green- I'm considering not buying new Led acid batteries for my UPS and reusing the old ones from my old laptop. Does anybody know if this can be done?

Fair chance old laptop batteries are going to be well and truely past their serviceable life.

Lead acid batteries are highly recyclable, and more easily recycled than lithium ion cells anyway.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

#62

Tangential but as an effort to go green- I'm considering not buying new Led acid batteries for my UPS and reusing the old ones from my old laptop. Does anybody know if this can be done?

Fair chance old laptop batteries are going to be well and truely past their serviceable life. Lead acid batteries are highly recyclable, and more easily recycled than lithium ion cells anyway.

By old I mean used not old-by-age. I usually buy a new laptop every 3 years

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

#63

I wonder what sort of shift happened in recent history such that S Africa is now a region where “electricity supply is erratic or non-existent.”

In the past, only privileged few used to have access to electricity in Southern Africa. Now almost everyone has access to electricity within two decades of ending of apartheid/colonisation. Having access to electricity is no longer a luxury for the privileged few. Electriticity infrastructure was built to provide electricity to privileged few. That's the biggest shift. By the way, I have access to electricity everyday and it isn't erratic.

Source -> I live in South Africa. Since 1982.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

#64

Tangential but as an effort to go green- I'm considering not buying new Led acid batteries for my UPS and reusing the old ones from my old laptop. Does anybody know if this can be done?

Not going to work and probably not safe. The nominal voltages of different battery chemistries are often different and you can’t use lithium ion chargers interchangeably with lead acid chargers. They make LFP batteries that are backwards compatible but those aren’t used in laptops.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

#66

Tesla batteries being used as a big UPS for mobile base stations. Nice idea for remote stations! Fun fact: from the metal mesh grill (cabinet on the right next to Tesla) looks like it's Ericsson equipment being powered.

And is worth a ton more $ vs the powerwall in a armored cage.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

#67

I wonder if solar plus batteries will become more common than the power grid in some of these countries, making the power grid redundant.

Seems doubtful. Solar and batteries require large initial investments; that's generally easier for the government or power companies than individuals.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

#68

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Fair chance old laptop batteries are going to be well and truely past their serviceable life. Lead acid batteries are highly recyclable, and more easily recycled than lithium ion cells anyway.

By old I mean used not old-by-age. I usually buy a new laptop every 3 years

Have you looked in to what’s required to balance-charge the cells?

I’ve seen some blog and YouTube videos where people have repurposed 18650 lithium ion cells.

There’s a bit to it, but it’s doable.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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There are problems with that. For one, consider that if all of a country's debt were denominated in bitcoin. For instance, the government issues bonds that can be redeemed when they mature for some quantity of BTC. Now consider what happens if the value of bitcoin goes up suddenly. The government now is much deeper in debt than they were planning to be. Sometimes having your own currency has benefits, for the country…

These mechanisms you mention are all mechanisms that have historically been used, but there is a widespread consensus that it's not the right thing to do. Best practice is that a central bank should be independent of government and their mandate should not be to meddle with the valuation of a country's debt but to keep the value of the currency stable. For example, for the ECB it would be completely impossible to mak…

Of course if you believe anything you just said about the ECB you are really delusional. They are very much dependent on a few European governments (primarily France and Germany), this became readily apparent during the financial crisis of 2008. The Bundesbank president at the time had served in the Kanzleramt before.

Re: Tesla Batteries Are Keeping Zimbabwe’s Economy Running

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After two major strawmen why should he add another reason?

Why does GP feel need to note that they are a Tesla critic rather than simply praising Zimbabwe's elegant use case? Snarkiness abounds, apparently.

To illustrate that they are overcoming significant bias with the rest of their observation.
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