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Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by boring_twenties »

michaelmrose wrote: post #193
boring_twenties wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm quite sure that his Enigma-like machines were used heavily and most enthusiastically. edit: Specifically, this machine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombe

The enigma machines were typewriter like devices of nazi manufacture designed to allow users to type clear text and produce cypher text that could be typed into devices that shared a secret to produce the original clear text. Alan Turing is known for - Being a primary figure in the effort to break the enigma machine code so that messages could be decoded without stealing the secret keys used. This was tactically valu…

> - Being a primary figure in the effort to break the enigma machine code so that messages could be decoded without stealing the secret keys used. This was tactically valuable.

That is obviously what I'm referring to, what are you on about? It would behoove you to refrain from needlessly condescending replies.

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by arcadeparade »

michaelmrose wrote: post #164
arcadeparade wrote: post #140

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At the moment you are correct but if things work out with Korea he could be remembered, rightly or wrongly as the person who started a new path.

He started by ridiculing said person on twitter and then obediently appearing for a photo op when he stroked his ego. If anything is accomplished it will be because china put the screws to them.

That might be the reality but who knows what history will say.

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by [deleted] »

dmix wrote: post #162
hollerith wrote: post #56

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If the design were more minimalist, they would be easier to counterfeit.

That's no excuse to make it ugly. There are plenty of ways to achieve this without massively cluttering it. Just look at Canada, Australia, or even Mexican plastic currency. These are nowhere near as bad but are just as secure. Canada: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/Canadian_Fron... Aus: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/91/b8/d391b8dafd8c60277a81... MX: https://www.inside-mexico.com/wp-content/upload…

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Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by michaelmrose »

elevenoh wrote: post #189
michaelmrose wrote: post #105

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Bitcoin has mainly thus far mostly allowed for some geeks to get rich and some criminals to move around money. It's actual impact on society is best described as it wasted a bunch of electricity.

crypto-facilitated access to psychedelics alone has radically changed 10s of thousands of lives & will have deep long term societal ripples.

You would need to substantiate that

- A greater number of people took psychedelics because they could now order them via the mail and pay in crypto

- Psychedelics change people's lives meaningfully

- the kind of people who buy drugs on the internet are the kind that are demographically likely to experience positive life changes from psychedelics.

I'm not saying your wrong. I'm more saying send me the link to the book when you write it.

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by michaelmrose »

boring_twenties wrote: post #201
michaelmrose wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The enigma machines were typewriter like devices of nazi manufacture designed to allow users to type clear text and produce cypher text that could be typed into devices that shared a secret to produce the original clear text. Alan Turing is known for - Being a primary figure in the effort to break the enigma machine code so that messages could be decoded without stealing the secret keys used. This was tactically valu…

> - Being a primary figure in the effort to break the enigma machine code so that messages could be decoded without stealing the secret keys used. This was tactically valuable. That is obviously what I'm referring to, what are you on about? It would behoove you to refrain from needlessly condescending replies.

I wasn't aware of any similarity between Turings Machines and the enigma machines. That's actually interesting thanks.

Did the original post say "his enigma machine" implying turings enigma machine? or did it say Enigma-"like" machine.

I certainly make enough typographical mistakes myself no particular shame in that.

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Post by Stunting »

philwelch wrote: post #138
Stunting wrote: post #124

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Hot take from a person too scared to comment from their their main internet handle. People who so badly want to strike a win for their values over human empathy, equality, and compassion have to steer common sense arguments into the arena of pedantic details. They have so routinely gotten their butt kicked in the arenas of empathy, equality, and compassion so often they’re ashamed to say what they feel out loud, even…

> They have so routinely gotten their butt kicked in the arenas of empathy, equality, and compassion Ah, gloating about "kicking butt", truly the pinnacle of empathy and compassion. Look, I agree with you, but there's no reason to descend to this guy's level. As old Fred once put it: > He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abys…

Yes dude, I feel you. “Butt kicked” = getting definitely out debated = society recognizing those ideals of hate are not valuable; however you want to phrase it.

Sometimes you don’t feed the trolls. Sometimes I read a thing on the internet that is so absurdly hateful and spiteful that nobody responds to and I worry “who out there is reading this, and might be on the fence about some human values. If they don’t see anybody responding to it at all, will they think it’s an acceptable view point?”

I’m not gonna save the world, but occasionally I can offer rebuttal to cultural biases.

It ain’t much, but it’s something however small.

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by boring_twenties »

michaelmrose wrote: post #205
boring_twenties wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - Being a primary figure in the effort to break the enigma machine code so that messages could be decoded without stealing the secret keys used. This was tactically valuable. That is obviously what I'm referring to, what are you on about? It would behoove you to refrain from needlessly condescending replies.

I wasn't aware of any similarity between Turings Machines and the enigma machines. That's actually interesting thanks. Did the original post say "his enigma machine" implying turings enigma machine? or did it say Enigma-"like" machine. I certainly make enough typographical mistakes myself no particular shame in that.

The post that I responded to said "Turing's machines," I assume this didn't mean "Turing machines" because that's an abstract concept so what would it even mean for it to be "used directly?"

All I meant to say is that machines designed/built by Turing were in fact very, very useful in their time. I was too lazy about it though and should have looked up the name in the beginning.

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Post by pimmen »

PorterDuff wrote: post #137
splintermax wrote: post #42

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I think Obama will most likely be on a note at some point

No offense to Obama, but I expect he'll be merely a Jeopardy question in 100 years. Memorable people tend to come from memorable times.

I think the 2008 Recession will be just as memorable as the Vietnam War or the fall of the Soviet Union. It has amplified a lot of problems that we will probably still struggle with in the future.

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by fiatjaf »

mprev wrote: post #114
fiatjaf wrote: post #110

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There's also the Isle of Mann Bank.

AFAIK the Manx pound is not Sterling, although it is in parity with Sterling. Manx pounds are not legal currency in the UK but UK pounds (whether the notes are English, Scottish, or NI) are legal in the Isle of Man. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_pound

Thank you, that explains why no one would take my Manx Pound on England when I tried.

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by hawkice »

splintermax wrote: post #42
johnchristopher wrote: post #6

These announcements always make me ponder about the people we'll put on bank notes or erect statues in honour of in 50 years and are alive and persecuted today but not recognized by society.

I think Obama will most likely be on a note at some point

Not sure Obama is in the "persecuted" category OP was looking for.
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