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Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by ian0 »

pizza234 wrote: post #135
_ps6d wrote: post #57

HN is lightweight in some ways, but also quite bad in others. For example, every single time you vote on anything, the site sends back a 302 redirect and then a copy of the entire page's HTML in response. This means that every vote results in a response that's usually around 10KB gzipped. As of right now, for me, voting on any comment in this thread currently causes a 14KB response and takes about 1.3 seconds to fini…

Also, worth mentioning the insufficient formatting features. Quoting is not supported, and is quite important for forum discussions' UX.

>> Also, worth mentioning the insufficient formatting features. Quoting is not supported, and is quite important for forum discussions' UX

Exactly

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by _ps6d »

streb-lo wrote: post #170
_ps6d wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! I'm honestly a pretty terrible designer overall and there's still a lot that's bad about Tildes's design, but it's slowly improving. There are some major changes coming soon, and hopefully those will help some more too.

Any chance of an invite?

Definitely (open for anyone else too) - there's no messaging on HN though, so just send me an email to the address in the announcement post: https://blog.tildes.net/announcing-tildes

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by sus_007 »

NullPrefix wrote: post #151
forsakenharmony wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After you've clicked on it, there's a bar at the top with an option to "Set basic HTML as default view"

s/there's/there was/ It's gone. That's why I'm posting about it.

It still displays "Load basic HTML (for slow connections)" at the right bottom section of the loading page. :/

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by madamelic »

snovv_crash wrote: post #149
mikewhy wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The person you're replying to is most likely making a low-effort troll post on how large webapps tend to be now. Keep in mind that most of what's downloaded would be cached, and the response from an up / down vote would be considerably smaller than 10KB.

> would be cached For heavy users of the site, sure. For someone who has stopped by for the first time, well, good luck with customer acquisition is all I can say.

Something tells me that YC isn't about acquiring users to have a unicorn exit of HackerNews.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by markus_zhang »

dredmorbius wrote: post #115
markus_zhang wrote: post #83

I wish HN had a "search" button but it's OK to search through Google. I hope they will never change the design forever. It reminds me of the BBS which I still logs on through Cterm these days.

Footer. Also DDG !hn If DDG is your default browser, you can run that in the navbar. Which I do all the damned time.

Thanks man, I'm using Chrome but will try DDG. It's gaining popularity these days.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by cameronbrown »

mrweasel wrote: post #23
cameronbrown wrote: post #2

old.reddit.com is still usable if it helps!

I still can't use the redesigned Reddit, I not even sure that I would, if I could. It's still way to slow to be something I'd use on a regular basis. If they kill of the old.reddit.com, I don't think I'd continue to visit Reddit. Imgur for instance isn't a site that I visit daily or even weekly any more. I really enjoyed the site, but after a redesign it just stopped being enjoyable. It's way to slow, to much Javascr…

Other than poor performance, the thing I'm most upset about is how each subreddit has lost its personality, and the fact they've closed the source. Being open is what made Reddit special, considering who founded it, it should never have gone closed source.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by acangiano »

FreeHugs wrote: post #85
_ps6d wrote: post #57

HN is lightweight in some ways, but also quite bad in others. For example, every single time you vote on anything, the site sends back a 302 redirect and then a copy of the entire page's HTML in response. This means that every vote results in a response that's usually around 10KB gzipped. As of right now, for me, voting on any comment in this thread currently causes a 14KB response and takes about 1.3 seconds to fini…

This means that every vote results in a response that's usually around 10KB gzipped I have Facebook open in another window and opened the network inspector to compare it: Just moving the mouse towards the like button created 824KB of data transfer. Not sure if it is because of tracking the mouse movement or if it preloads stuff it thinks my mouse is moving towards. Or maybe it loads stuff that it would display if I h…

I have a gigabit Internet connection with top of the line laptops and Facebook still makes me wait for a second or two simply to show me 5 notifications.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by nothrabannosir »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #169
_ps6d wrote: post #57

HN is lightweight in some ways, but also quite bad in others. For example, every single time you vote on anything, the site sends back a 302 redirect and then a copy of the entire page's HTML in response. This means that every vote results in a response that's usually around 10KB gzipped. As of right now, for me, voting on any comment in this thread currently causes a 14KB response and takes about 1.3 seconds to fini…

Reloading the page is way easier then rebuilding the entire comment section, should something be renewed ( eg. a new comment). It also (partially) removes the requirement for live-pages on an active post here.

This isn't about reloading the page on voting with JS disabled; it's about the XHR call when you have JS enabled. It goes to the same endpoint as a non-JS call, ultimately loading the new page, but completely discards it (as it is an XHR call not an actual pageload).

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by andrepd »

exabrial wrote: post #17

I loathe the modern web. Speed is a secondary to "hey look what we're doing with our frameworks".

To a certain extent, it's developers serving themselves, not the user. Your job is not to show off the latest frameworkify.js and get internet points when you blog about it. It's also not to make your life easier (like by including a 1MB js library that saves an afternoon of your time). It's to make the user's life better. Just do your damn job! \end{rant}
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