Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News • Hacker News Board

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#91

Post by cryptozeus » Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 9:11 PM UTC

Too many negative views against new web. Imo these apps are built for both faster and slower connection with lite version. Sites can support slower network areas but why should that go against new web stack. I absolutely love the experience of spa, progressive webs and heavy client aide apps which do not post entire html every time you click on something.

I do agree with op that HN is built for sharing news and links and it is great that they have not tried to update it with new style and heavy experience.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#92

Post by CalChris » Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 9:12 PM UTC

I'd really like to disagree but I have to agree. I can think of so many ways that HN could be improved but then to what purpose.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#93

Post by noisem4ker » Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 9:12 PM UTC

Semiapies wrote: post #77

But this site has been redesigned. It used to be unusable on mobile and is now just poor.

It used to be better with mobile browsers that knew how to properly reflow text (Opera Mobile), so that comments didn't get progressively narrower down the reply chain. Dumber browsers have since taken over as the whole "responsive" thing became a responsibility of the website itself, instead of being taken care of by the user agent, with inconsistent and ultimately worse results.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#94

Post by boring_twenties » Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 9:12 PM UTC

For reddit, try old.reddit.com, or you can set your account to always use old in preferences.

It's not as clean as hn, but way better than "new" reddit. (I use it even on my fast connection.)

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#95

Post by boring_twenties » Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 9:13 PM UTC

exabrial wrote: post #17

I loathe the modern web. Speed is a secondary to "hey look what we're doing with our frameworks".

Secondary? If only. It's more like not even considered at all.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#96

Post by boring_twenties » Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 9:15 PM UTC

turrini wrote: post #24

There should be an extension that automatically redirects common websites to their lite versions. reddit.com -> old.reddit.com facebook.com -> mbasic.facebook.com cnn.com -> lite.cnn.com npr.org -> text.npr.org twitter.com -> twitter.com (with JS disabled) gmail.com -> gmail.com (HTML version)

Twitter is barely usable with JS disabled. Any time you follow a link to it you'll get a worthless interstitial "would you like to proceed to legacy twitter??" with only one button: "Yes." As of recently, if you have cookies disabled for their domain as well you'll end up in a redirect loop and never be able to see the 140 characters of text.

*As for reddit though, if you log in with an account you can set it to always use old reddit in preferences.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#97

Post by overcast » Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 9:17 PM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #69

overcast wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not increasing line-height. I don't have a problem with my eyesight, I have a problem with poor typography.

And I have a problem with acres of whitespace. Here's one vote for HN to leave the line height right where it is.

How do you live with a centered fixed-width table that is wasting 15% of the browser window with nothing but hectares of white space then? Bumping the line-height to 1.5ish the font size has minimal impact to space efficiency, and add tons to readability.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#98

Post by icebraining » Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 9:18 PM UTC

Deimorz wrote: post #79

ezequiel-garzon wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume you have JavaScript disabled, right? If so, can you give an example of a similar webpage that doesn’t reload the whole page to reflect your vote?

No, voting doesn't work at all with JS disabled.

Yes, it does. I think you have something weird with your browser: with JS on, it does a light AJAX request, without it, it does the whole redirect thing.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#99

Post by icebraining » Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 9:20 PM UTC

crispyporkbites wrote: post #89

ezequiel-garzon wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume you have JavaScript disabled, right? If so, can you give an example of a similar webpage that doesn’t reload the whole page to reflect your vote?

You can do this without javascript, you just create a form that sends an XHR PUT/POST request and returns back a 200 response. You can't do much with the response without JS but a single upvote doesn't change anything on the page so there's no need for the reload.

> a single upvote doesn't change anything on the page

Not much, but it does hide the arrows and shows an undo link on the comment.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#100

Post by tobinfricke » Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 9:20 PM UTC

zoul wrote: post #81

graeme wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Haven't had that issue. Am on desktop version, unsure if mobile exists

The tap targets are minuscule and close to each other.

I had to pinch-to-zoom to upvote this comment. :-)