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Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by sph »

meowface wrote: post #21

100% agreed. A dark mode option would be cool, but it's very easy to get one with user themes and alternative UIs. I bet HN will look almost identical 10 years from now, too. I wonder how many popular websites can boast such a consistent design from their beginning?

I hacked a quick dark mode userscript for HN that respects your OS choice of dark/light colour scheme (using the prefers-color-scheme media query)

https://gist.github.com/1player/85d146a4aa0c2afc78bab63582f5...

Some things like the login page are not styled correctly, but works good enough to browse and post comments.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by jddj »

noident wrote: post #28
colmvp wrote: post #4

Is PG even involved with HN anymore? He hasn't posted on his account in four years.

I've seen posts by PG in some recent threads out in the wild, they don't show up in his post history. I would imagine this is intentional to prevent old comments being dredged up and used against him, much like Zuckerberg's old FB messages were automatically deleted from the recipients inbox. Fine by me, but I wish HN would offer the same privilege to its users and allow us to delete our old posts

I believe Dang has said once or twice that this is something that can be achieved if you email them.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by liability »

rangibaby wrote: post #41
liability wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> news sites It's really a sad state of affairs when an industry with such a strong historical connection with publishing is now reasonably cited as an industry worse at publishing than most others.

Newspapers have always been full of ads fwiw

I'm talking beyond the matter of ads. On their websites I can use an adblocker, so in that respect the situation has actually improved.

They regularly fail on basic UX. Their ability to turn a kilobyte of text into 10MB of trash is astounding, as is their ability to cripple modern computer hardware, or simply readability, with their latest 'innovations' in totally unnecessary JS/CSS fuckery.

uMatrix blocking all JS, including first party, helps. But you've still got bullshit like floating headers that follow you when you scroll down the article to contend with. I find myself creating cosmetic filters to remove pointless floating clutter on news websites more than any other sort of site. The industry seems utterly incapable of presenting a clean and readable article online.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by NullPrefix »

turrini wrote: post #24

There should be an extension that automatically redirects common websites to their lite versions. reddit.com -> old.reddit.com facebook.com -> mbasic.facebook.com cnn.com -> lite.cnn.com npr.org -> text.npr.org twitter.com -> twitter.com (with JS disabled) gmail.com -> gmail.com (HTML version)

>gmail.com -> gmail.com (HTML version)

gmail used to have an option to set HTML as default, but it seems like it's gone.

Only way to get HTML is to click on a link that's available during loading, nothing in the settings to make it permanent.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by adamkittelson »

mrweasel wrote: post #23
cameronbrown wrote: post #2

old.reddit.com is still usable if it helps!

I still can't use the redesigned Reddit, I not even sure that I would, if I could. It's still way to slow to be something I'd use on a regular basis. If they kill of the old.reddit.com, I don't think I'd continue to visit Reddit. Imgur for instance isn't a site that I visit daily or even weekly any more. I really enjoyed the site, but after a redesign it just stopped being enjoyable. It's way to slow, to much Javascr…

The most frustrating thing to me about imgur is they way over-compress images on the mobile site. I always have to request the desktop site to get the original quality image. It's bad to the point that text on an image is often unreadable on the mobile site.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by _ps6d »

HN is lightweight in some ways, but also quite bad in others. For example, every single time you vote on anything, the site sends back a 302 redirect and then a copy of the entire page's HTML in response. This means that every vote results in a response that's usually around 10KB gzipped.

As of right now, for me, voting on any comment in this thread currently causes a 14KB response and takes about 1.3 seconds to finish.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by Erlich_Bachman »

krilly wrote: post #19
overcast wrote: post #8

I wish they would update the line-height to something more reasonable. ~1.5x font size would be go a long way in paragraph readability. Other than that, it's fast and stable. About all I require from a forum. Edit: All my lovely responders, I appreciate the feedback, but I don't want to install addons/mods/hacks to fix line-height.

Another awesome thing about simple sites like this is you can hack the CSS really easily with something like Stylus. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/styl-us/

You can literally do something like what parent comment wanted to do in three (3) minutes, including installing the addon. Stylus is great.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by zamadatix »

blondin wrote: post #42
overcast wrote: post #8

I wish they would update the line-height to something more reasonable. ~1.5x font size would be go a long way in paragraph readability. Other than that, it's fast and stable. About all I require from a forum. Edit: All my lovely responders, I appreciate the feedback, but I don't want to install addons/mods/hacks to fix line-height.

my default zoom is 150%. this breaks a lot of websites. but maybe they don't care about accessibility anyway. like OP said, i have not had any issue with HN for years. i recently started keeping dev tools's console open when i am using chrome. i have some JS to collapse comments here on HN. i have seen some interesting things in the console, i just keep it opened now: - some sites have s t tons of JS errors and yet f…

What sites does zoom break? I've been on a 2x DPI screen for years and never noticed anything. The web is pretty good about this, even "pixels" are actually just length units not physical pixels.
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