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Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by bigwavedave »

hollerith wrote: post #56
dmix wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That $5 pound note looks great, I love the white sides with the emblem of the notes in general. But the pattern remains, those bills are for the most part extremely dense and overflowing with information and layered graphics. Especially the existing $50 one which is crammed full of stuff. It's like someone came up with a list of ideas and said yes to all of them.

If the design were more minimalist, they would be easier to counterfeit.

Truth! There's always a human element though... A previous employee of mine once accepted a $10 bill that turned out to be a $1 bill with a zero drawn in black marker on each corner of the bill by the ones. The store was insanely busy that day so I can kind of understand how she let it slip past her, but good grief.

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by mLuby »

Retric wrote: post #40
toomuchtodo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men and women to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea.”

That’s poetic, but oddly terrible advice as we can actually build ships. Longer lifespans is already a goal, but aging is unlikely to be “solved” in in the next 100 or even 1,000 years. People took much longer than that to figure out how to fly and we have been trying to solve aging for as long if not longer. Consider buildings age as do diamonds. To fix aging we need to get bodies to do things like regrow teeth and…

All attempts to cure aging have been magic/religion-based until very recently. Also it's not like we "learned to fly" as if cavemen could have done it had they only known the right wing shape and arm technique. It was only possible because of an accumulation of industrial and scientific knowledge.

Significant life extension will likely be built off the same accumulation of knowledge, not some rainforest frog extract the ancients could have refined. The only way I can imagine we don't have this in 1000 years is if someone's nuke finger gets twitchy.

Want to accelerate research? Make "The Fable of the Dragon-Tyrant" required reading/watching for all schoolchildren: https://youtu.be/cZYNADOHhVY (That this might be controversial is itself interesting.)

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by headmelted »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #14
johnchristopher wrote: post #6

These announcements always make me ponder about the people we'll put on bank notes or erect statues in honour of in 50 years and are alive and persecuted today but not recognized by society.

Aubrey de Grey. The future will look back at today like we were savages for not innovating faster to cure aging. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey

If history remembers Aubrey De Grey at all I suspect it will be as someone utterly abhorrent for thinking of aging as something to be "cured".

Imagine he were right (he's not, for myriad reasons), and he found a way for everyone to live to be 500.

He's made clear statements about ceasing pro-creation in favour of extending life spans well beyond what we experience now.

What of all the people who would have lived a full life but would never get the chance because of people like him?

Savage indeed.

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by fortran77 »

TuringNYC wrote: post #72
tim333 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's not very persecuted though.

A large number of Americans sadly even refuse to believe he is American.

He was a very popular President who was re-elected. I don't think "a large number" is accurate. Maybe a small fringe.

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by pidg »

bigwavedave wrote: post #81
hollerith wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the design were more minimalist, they would be easier to counterfeit.

Truth! There's always a human element though... A previous employee of mine once accepted a $10 bill that turned out to be a $1 bill with a zero drawn in black marker on each corner of the bill by the ones. The store was insanely busy that day so I can kind of understand how she let it slip past her, but good grief.

You're kind of demonstrating why the £ design is superior to the $ though

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by pidg »

dmix wrote: post #54
jsty wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> are they usually that messy looking? They don't really look much like that. See: https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/current-banknotes I'm hoping the fact that's just the concept art means it'll be reworked to appear more like the existing notes ...

That $5 pound note looks great, I love the white sides with the emblem of the notes in general. But the pattern remains, those bills are for the most part extremely dense and overflowing with information and layered graphics. Especially the existing $50 one which is crammed full of stuff. It's like someone came up with a list of ideas and said yes to all of them.

They're all very different colours, for a start, so you can know what you're holding quickly/intuitively (so long as you're not colour-blind).

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by headmelted »

Retric wrote: post #40
toomuchtodo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men and women to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea.”

That’s poetic, but oddly terrible advice as we can actually build ships. Longer lifespans is already a goal, but aging is unlikely to be “solved” in in the next 100 or even 1,000 years. People took much longer than that to figure out how to fly and we have been trying to solve aging for as long if not longer. Consider buildings age as do diamonds. To fix aging we need to get bodies to do things like regrow teeth and…

And at that point (and I'm venturing into philosophy here so sorry about that) am I still me?

If my brain has been downloaded (for lack of a better word) into another, am I living on in that other body or does someone else have my memories?

I've often wondered this about Star Trek-style teleportation. Are those red-shirts really moving instantly from one place to the other or are they being incinerated on a coloured circle and cloned somewhere else?

Re: Alan Turing to be the face of new £50 note

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Post by sneak »

Anechoic wrote: post #80
sneak wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most consumers don’t use any of those things any longer.

Most consumers don’t use any of those things any longer. Vinyl records, yes (mostly). I'm pretty sure the other two things are still in pretty wide use. [0] https://money.cnn.com/2017/04/27/media/ebooks-sales-real-boo... [1] http://www.insideradio.com/who-s-listening-am-radio-by-the-n...

Something can be in widespread use and not hit the 51% threshold required by “most consumers”.
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