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What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

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Re: What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

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An even more stealth method is to make the system work perfectly if everything is running fine. Like correctly reporting net frequency in the range 49-51 Hz but reporting false values when outside of that range. That way there will be no detectable errors until everything starts behaving erratically. The best way for a society to prepare is to have a few small incidents that put the safety systems to the test on a re…

Reminds me of stuxnet

Stuxnet was damaging equipment by running it in slightly bad ways once in a while.

That seems to be a quite different attack from something that causes a sudden outage.

Re: What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

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post #30

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When they cut the power to an area, they can't selectively keep isolated locations active unless they are isolated in that they operate upon their own spur. That is why Hospitals would be deemed critical and important not to cut out, they are handled by onsight failover power supply in the form of backup generators. In this case, it was like asking somebody to be able to catch a ball, they say they are ready and yet…

The actual report says that Ipswich hospital wasn't part of the load shedding; so it's not clear why the generators had to cut in in the first place yet.

When the frequency is nosediving and below some threshold it is a good sign that you want to switch to your back up power immediately. Even if there isn’t ultimately a cut, it is bad quality power and a sign of system instability

Re: What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

An even more stealth method is to make the system work perfectly if everything is running fine. Like correctly reporting net frequency in the range 49-51 Hz but reporting false values when outside of that range. That way there will be no detectable errors until everything starts behaving erratically. The best way for a society to prepare is to have a few small incidents that put the safety systems to the test on a re…

”Like correctly reporting net frequency in the range 49-51 Hz but reporting false values when outside of that range.” You can’t fake the system frequency like that. Anyone connected to the grid can observe/measure the system frequency trivially - you could do so right now at the nearest 10A socket. The attack you describe would require compromising large numbers of diverse, distributed generation and frequency respon…

Yep. Once one meter starts reporting the wrong frequency vs the thousands of other ones. It'll simply be taken offline and replaced because it could just be a broken one. Depending on severity, the gig could be up if the meter is sent back to the manufacturer for "repair".

Re: What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

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It's notable that this report is completely consistent so far with the way I would design a cyber attack to take out a countries power grid. > The causes provided by RWE for the initiation of the trip of Little Barford steam turbine (ST1C) was due to discrepancies on three independent safety critical speed measurement signals to the generator control system. A cyber attack would most likely, rather than directly take…

> Injecting false values for a sensor reading is a very good way to hide your tracks as an attacker - just inject a bunch of "0" values, and then uninstall whatever malware did it, and probably nobody will ever find out why that sensor randomly acted up.

That may be for legacy machinery control systems (MCSs), but modern MSCs and increasingly wise to such threats as they monitor and archive all critical control system signals at the subsecond sample rates, such that sensor anomalies are detected in near real time and logged for future anaysis. You would not only need to hack the individual sensor signal, but you'd need to also know how to disrupt the MCS ladder logic that knows how to bypass a sensor putting out bad signals to keep the machinery system stable. Not an easy feat.

Personally, I mainly get involved in this data after the fact for energy optimization. However, the folks that design the systems complete Failure Mode and Effects Analysis (FMEA) in attempts to thwart failures and attacks at any concievable level. Still further, greater protection in terms of first line of defense firewalls and PKI certs between subsystems and components, making getting access to these bits int he first place increasingly difficult whereas these systems used to be virtually unprotected for any ding dong to tap into.

Sure, there are still holes, and probably always will be, but the efforts of MCS designers to protect their systems grows and the automation intelligence being developed to govern these control systems will provide an additional level of protection (and a known point of vulnerability).

Re: What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

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It's notable that this report is completely consistent so far with the way I would design a cyber attack to take out a countries power grid. > The causes provided by RWE for the initiation of the trip of Little Barford steam turbine (ST1C) was due to discrepancies on three independent safety critical speed measurement signals to the generator control system. A cyber attack would most likely, rather than directly take…

> Injecting false values for a sensor reading is a very good way to hide your tracks as an attacker - just inject a bunch of "0" values, and then uninstall whatever malware did it, and probably nobody will ever find out why that sensor randomly acted up. That may be for legacy machinery control systems (MCSs), but modern MSCs and increasingly wise to such threats as they monitor and archive all critical control syste…

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Re: What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

#126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

”Like correctly reporting net frequency in the range 49-51 Hz but reporting false values when outside of that range.” You can’t fake the system frequency like that. Anyone connected to the grid can observe/measure the system frequency trivially - you could do so right now at the nearest 10A socket. The attack you describe would require compromising large numbers of diverse, distributed generation and frequency respon…

Yep. Once one meter starts reporting the wrong frequency vs the thousands of other ones. It'll simply be taken offline and replaced because it could just be a broken one. Depending on severity, the gig could be up if the meter is sent back to the manufacturer for "repair".

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Re: What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

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It's notable that this report is completely consistent so far with the way I would design a cyber attack to take out a countries power grid. > The causes provided by RWE for the initiation of the trip of Little Barford steam turbine (ST1C) was due to discrepancies on three independent safety critical speed measurement signals to the generator control system. A cyber attack would most likely, rather than directly take…

> Injecting false values for a sensor reading is a very good way to hide your tracks as an attacker - just inject a bunch of "0" values, and then uninstall whatever malware did it, and probably nobody will ever find out why that sensor randomly acted up. That may be for legacy machinery control systems (MCSs), but modern MSCs and increasingly wise to such threats as they monitor and archive all critical control syste…

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Re: What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

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Simplifying, this is what I get:

(1) A lightning strike creates a transient voltage on the grid.

(2) Some power generators remove themselves from the grid to prevent damage to themselves from the transient voltage.

(3) Now there is too much demand on the grid -- too many people using power and not enough generators to supply it. (The line frequency dropping indicates that supply and demand are not balanced.)

(4) So the grid operator begins to (deliberately) remove some people from the grid to keep the supply and demand balanced.

What's not clear to me is what would happen if you didn't do step #4.

Re: What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

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post #10

Most traditional generators (think CCGT, nuclear, hydro) run in synchronous mode. Which means the generators spins with rpm proportional/equal to the network frequency. For 50Hz that would be 3000rpm. When the total electricity demand exceeds the supply, the kinetic energy of spinning generators is converted to electricity which slows down the generator rpm, which reduces the frequency. All synchronous generators on…

That makes me wonder, if you were standing next to these turbines would you be able to here them slow down?

If I listen carefully, I can tell the difference between 48 and 50hz using a sine generator (although it's very subtle), so I'd guess that you possibly could.

Re: What Happened in the UK Blackouts?

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Simplifying, this is what I get: (1) A lightning strike creates a transient voltage on the grid. (2) Some power generators remove themselves from the grid to prevent damage to themselves from the transient voltage. (3) Now there is too much demand on the grid -- too many people using power and not enough generators to supply it. (The line frequency dropping indicates that supply and demand are not balanced.) (4) So t…

That’s when you end up with a cascading failure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_failure). The remaining generators are overloaded by the demand and shut down to protect themselves as well, which further decreases the supply and causes more stations to shut off, etc.

The Wikipedia article about the northeast US blackout of 2003 is a very interesting read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003

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