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Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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post #14

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The challenge is when all their friends have a phone, and they want one. Sure, if the culture at your kids school is no one has a phone, then no one cares. If not, it's a lot harder, and does have impacts on them socially.

And you tell them no and that's that.

It sucks how it is but I've seen plenty of people totally ostracized because they lack internet/social media. Nobody wants to communicate unless it's online.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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post #12
post #9

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And what about exposure from outside your control? Edit: and what about for parents who don't have the resources or ability to manage that kind of control? My point is that it's not easy, not even in the slightest.

I don’t understand why this has suddenly become so complex; you simply don’t give the kid a phone. That’s not a resource, that’s a lack of a resource. If they’re super young, they’ll entertain without electronics. Give them a coloring book. If they’re a little older, tell them to go use that Snap Circuits kit. Or here’s a ZX Spectrum and a manual on z80 asm. Or here’s a Nintendo DS and a Pokemon game.

I agree with not giving a young person a phone, but I don't consider it easy. This life has all but demanded the smart phone be an essential part of success. A well off (not necessarily financially well off, rather good parent status) parent might be able to keep this away from a child, but I don't think the same is for most parents in America.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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post #12
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what about exposure from outside your control? Edit: and what about for parents who don't have the resources or ability to manage that kind of control? My point is that it's not easy, not even in the slightest.

I don’t understand why this has suddenly become so complex; you simply don’t give the kid a phone. That’s not a resource, that’s a lack of a resource. If they’re super young, they’ll entertain without electronics. Give them a coloring book. If they’re a little older, tell them to go use that Snap Circuits kit. Or here’s a ZX Spectrum and a manual on z80 asm. Or here’s a Nintendo DS and a Pokemon game.

The pressure kids get from their schools to be on iPads, Google classroom, a whole set of apps is unreal. The schools don’t even ask for permission before giving them all of these things.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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post #4

>> Apps that include children in their target audience need to adhere to our new policy requirements including appropriate content, showing suitable ads (learn more), and disclosing personally identifiable information correctly. so youtube kids would be a flagrant violation of their new policy. why do they keep recommending this app to me? shouldn't it just be demonitized like they do to countless devs for unstated r…

Youtube Kids is videos OF kids, not videos FOR kids.

From Wikipedia:

> YouTube Kids is a video app developed by YouTube. The app provides a version of the service oriented towards children, with curated selections of content, parental control features, and filtering of videos not deemed to be appropriate to the target audience.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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I'm wondering if there is any protection to changing the google account and/or resetting the phone by the child. My daughter got as far as reinstalling MacOS to get around parental controls, at which point I gave up trying to use software to limit her screen time.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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post #6

The way easier solution to this content rating mess is don’t give your young child a phone/tablet. Give them a coloring book and a Snap Circuits kit. I realize this isn’t something Google can do something about; this is directed at the parents giving an internet connected device to a developing mind.

Do you have kids?

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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post #4

>> Apps that include children in their target audience need to adhere to our new policy requirements including appropriate content, showing suitable ads (learn more), and disclosing personally identifiable information correctly. so youtube kids would be a flagrant violation of their new policy. why do they keep recommending this app to me? shouldn't it just be demonitized like they do to countless devs for unstated r…

YouTube kids has issues, no doubt.

But I'm happy to see this post and their attempt to improve things in the Play Store. I think there are people at Google that want to do the right thing. Hope they can do so against motivation to blindly increase "engagement", clicks, users, monetization.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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post #25

I'm wondering if there is any protection to changing the google account and/or resetting the phone by the child. My daughter got as far as reinstalling MacOS to get around parental controls, at which point I gave up trying to use software to limit her screen time.

That’s not so hard to prevent, but I think it’s awesome she went that far!

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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post #6

The way easier solution to this content rating mess is don’t give your young child a phone/tablet. Give them a coloring book and a Snap Circuits kit. I realize this isn’t something Google can do something about; this is directed at the parents giving an internet connected device to a developing mind.

Having tried all the above and far more, I'm here to tell you Snap Circuits got nowhere with my kids.

I will say I tried to be the dad that gave them access on the theory that 'they'll have to learn sometime, better while they're under parental supervision." How wrong I was. The phones are like crack to an addict.

My advice to my friends with significantly younger kids (mine are 14 and 17 now): you don't want your kids to be the first in their cohort to have a phone, and you probably don't want to be last, but you and the parents of their friends should be competing to see who's last.

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