The biggest issue isn't one mentioned in the article. No amount of hiring tricks and hacks will work around the fact that hardly anyone (including most managers and HR pros) gets trained on how to review a resume, conduct an interview, and evaluate a candidate.
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#22awesome, right on!!!
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#23Whats the general consensus on take home projects? How helpful are they?
If you like to roleplay as a tenured professor, sure it's great.
Otherwise it's a total waste of everyone's time.
Extra points if you have a tweed vest and a smoking pipe.
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#24This article appears to be an extremely long-winded way of stating that you don't have to pick from the top-end. Which is true. Companies know this. Most of the stuff I read here is basically made up of people who aren't quite the best moaning that they couldn't get a job at Google or whatever. Life goes on. It is impractical and not a good thing for every software developer, even the very good ones, to pile into the…
You don't have to be the best at what you do, either. Being pretty good is just fine.
I'm glad that I'm not the best at what I do. I'd be working more hours, given too much responsibility, picking up the slack for people, subject to more meetings, etc. None of that is for me.
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#25Whats the general consensus on take home projects? How helpful are they?
Take home has two sides to it.
Group A: People who excel at face to face interviews(extroverted) will complain that it is waste of time and disrespectful, because it demands significant time commitment compared to a 1 hour in-person interview.
Group B: People with interview anxiety(introverted) will excel at this type of test because they have the freedom to set aside their own time, do things at their own pace and environment.
However, people from Group-A has a point, because certain take-home assingment are notoriously complex and will take multiple days of effort if you want to meet all requirements, which are not an option for people with family & existing job.
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#26The biggest issue isn't one mentioned in the article. No amount of hiring tricks and hacks will work around the fact that hardly anyone (including most managers and HR pros) gets trained on how to review a resume, conduct an interview, and evaluate a candidate.
That presumes there is teachable wisdom and technique in that domain.
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#27The biggest issue isn't one mentioned in the article. No amount of hiring tricks and hacks will work around the fact that hardly anyone (including most managers and HR pros) gets trained on how to review a resume, conduct an interview, and evaluate a candidate.
This does not ring true based on my experience. Where have you worked where you found this to be the case?
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#29Whats the general consensus on take home projects? How helpful are they?
Really helpful, as long as they're done well and respect the candidate as much as possible.
In my experience, they provide a great way of understanding a candidate's skills. It also lets them work in a low-pressure environment with their own tools, which tends to let people achieve their best.
I actually recently launched a service to help make managing take home tests through git more efficient: https://candidatecode.com
It's still early stage, so any feedback is appreciated
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#30This article appears to be an extremely long-winded way of stating that you don't have to pick from the top-end. Which is true. Companies know this. Most of the stuff I read here is basically made up of people who aren't quite the best moaning that they couldn't get a job at Google or whatever. Life goes on. It is impractical and not a good thing for every software developer, even the very good ones, to pile into the…
I have generally been rather disappointed with Google/FANG software developers. These companies generally though not always avoid the bottom 1/3 of the talent pool, but that’s about it. Effectively they simply select for people willing to hack their hiring process, which also excludes most actually talented developers. Resulting in a few very talented people, and an overall average workforce. This is also why most in…
Who they hired are good enough for the jobs.
Not everyone in FAANG are in charge of shaping the industry.
In fact, even with such hiring process, I would say FAANG problem is still having too many of such talented people but not enough internal growth so that they can't retain them.