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It’s not really UNIX anymore.
POSIX defines what Unix is, and there's no Python/Ruby/Perl here: https://shellhaters.org https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/
Don’t just deprecate. Remove them entirely please. If I wanted them I would install up to date versions.
> Scripting language runtimes such as Python, Ruby, and Perl are included in macOS for compatibility with legacy software. Future versions of macOS won’t include scripting language runtimes by default, and might require you to install additional packages. If your software depends on scripting languages, it’s recommended that you bundle the runtime within the app.
Title is misleading and makes it sound like Apple is removing support for scripting features that are integrated with macOS - AppleScript for instance. More like "Apple to stop shipping scripting language interpreters in macOS".
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POSIX defines what Unix is, and there's no Python/Ruby/Perl here: https://shellhaters.org https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/
Agreed as it relates to UNIX(R). But, I think we have all come to expect BASH and other scripting to be available on our systems.
scripts are just text files that can do a great deal when executed by the scripting language runtime Microsoft have done a lot in Windows 10 to counter PowerShell malware https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/poshchap/2015/10/16/secu... https://www.microsoft.com/security/blog/2017/12/04/windows-d... It’s not foolproof but it copes with many common attacks. It’s surprising Apple hasn’t taken this approach.
To do so would run counter to the "Mac's don't get viruses/malware" mythology. There's been a persistent "That's only a PC thing" for a long time. Fairly sure it was even referenced in Apple's own advertising during the "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" phase.
Do a google search for "Secure By Design" site:apple.com to see where they use this term for both iOS and OSX. Someday, someone will win in court over this.
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POSIX defines what Unix is, and there's no Python/Ruby/Perl here: https://shellhaters.org https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/
Agreed as it relates to UNIX(R). But, I think we have all come to expect BASH and other scripting to be available on our systems.
scripts are just text files that can do a great deal when executed by the scripting language runtime Microsoft have done a lot in Windows 10 to counter PowerShell malware https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/poshchap/2015/10/16/secu... https://www.microsoft.com/security/blog/2017/12/04/windows-d... It’s not foolproof but it copes with many common attacks. It’s surprising Apple hasn’t taken this approach.
To do so would run counter to the "Mac's don't get viruses/malware" mythology. There's been a persistent "That's only a PC thing" for a long time. Fairly sure it was even referenced in Apple's own advertising during the "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" phase.
About bloody time! Apple don't keep their scripting languages updated. For example, macOS Mojave 10.14.6 ships with perl 5, version 18, subversion 4 (v5.18.4) in /usr/bin/perl; but my homebrew setup provides perl 5, version 30, subversion 0 (v5.30.0). (And for those who don't know perl, it's been semi-permanently pinned at "perl 5" as a major version number for about 20 years due to the existence of perl 6, which is…
To be fair, Mojave comes pre-installed with the latest release of Python and PHP.