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A Healthy Diet For The Mind

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Re: A Healthy Diet For The Mind

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About reading fiction apart from technical things - I believe that fiction writing is important and practical for society as a whole in a way similar to how thought experiments and simulations are important for scientists. Writers of books and TV shows create imaginery worlds in which they set up different scenarios, create problems and propose solutions. Those stories often create discussions, in which people genera…

> For example, many science-fiction fans get involved in lengthy discussions about physics [...]

This always bothers me when talking to sci-fi fans that only read sci-fi. It also bothers me in more modern sci-fi when the author puts too much time into explaining the mechanics of whatever concepts are used.

The 1950s, 1960s and the earlier 1970s sci-fi is usually about ideas. The 'science' is mostly there as a plot device. This gives the author huge freedom to just take an idea (however absurd) and run with it.

Whatever kind of fiction your read, though, it's always characters, their development and their reaction to the environment that they find themselves in that is the key to a good story.

(Yes, there is plenty of good sci-fi to be found today, from the hard kind to the lyrical/meta-physical kind, I'm just commenting on the general development of the genre. Also, see Sturgeon's Law).

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I welcome healthy discussion on the Story's role in shaping, sharpening, and healing minds (especially as we grow up and then grow older). At the very least, it's a big change from the "I have empirical evidence that degrees in English and the people who major in it are absolutely worthless" threads/links that run through HN from time to time. Remember, all, those great characters and classic tales you've ever read a…

How many great novelists were English majors?

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I was thinking about exactly this yesterday - so much of "media matter" is like junk food for the mind. I wondered if we could start an organic movement but for the content industry.

You might check out this novel: http://www.amazon.com/Davids-Sling-Marc-Stiegler/dp/06716536... Among other things, Stiegler posits a "Zetetic Institute" that teaches people how to think better -- effectively, an "organic foods" industry for the mind.

Interesting. Stiegler's book is copyrighted 1988, but "Zetetic" references were also briefly popular in the mid-1970s as well. If I recall correctly P.J. Plauger had a Zetetic Institute in one of his SF stories back then, for example. The term refers to a form of Pyrrhonism -- basically skepticism without the dogmatic certainty that can be just as blinding as affirmative certainty.

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I was thinking about exactly this yesterday - so much of "media matter" is like junk food for the mind. I wondered if we could start an organic movement but for the content industry.

You might check out this novel: http://www.amazon.com/Davids-Sling-Marc-Stiegler/dp/06716536... Among other things, Stiegler posits a "Zetetic Institute" that teaches people how to think better -- effectively, an "organic foods" industry for the mind.

Isn't that basically what the Singularity Institute and http://lesswrong.com/ guys are trying to do?

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I welcome healthy discussion on the Story's role in shaping, sharpening, and healing minds (especially as we grow up and then grow older). At the very least, it's a big change from the "I have empirical evidence that degrees in English and the people who major in it are absolutely worthless" threads/links that run through HN from time to time. Remember, all, those great characters and classic tales you've ever read a…

How many great novelists were English majors?

David Foster Wallace majored in English (and philosophy), and I think he's a great novelist. Most older novelists didn't study English because English literature wasn't considered a serious scholarly pursuit until fairly recently.

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Can we get a more descriptive title next time? I clicked this link expecting to read about food and diet choices that improved thinking and was incredibly disappointed.

I too expected that. But what I read managed to thrill me than disappoint me. This is some topic which isn't discussed much and I am glad such an idea is being discussed!

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Reading fiction shouldn't be brushed aside as something frivolous. When you read a story you live the characters. When you live different characters to acquire the ability to relate to different kinds of people that are not like you. In short you learn to empathize. You become more human.

Re: A Healthy Diet For The Mind

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I welcome healthy discussion on the Story's role in shaping, sharpening, and healing minds (especially as we grow up and then grow older). At the very least, it's a big change from the "I have empirical evidence that degrees in English and the people who major in it are absolutely worthless" threads/links that run through HN from time to time. Remember, all, those great characters and classic tales you've ever read a…

How many great novelists were English majors?

Douglas Adams, Stephen King, John Updike, Joseph Heller, JRR Tolkein.

Among other notable storytellers: Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese, James Cameron, Danny Boyle.

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