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dazc wrote: post #134
stedaniels wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the UK and have had the same number for a decade or so, I probably get one a year? They are mainly from foreign companies. If said countries also had our regulations, and a sharing agreement in place, it wouldn't be an issue.

I am in the same situation yet I know people who are plagued by such calls. There must be something that triggers this off? Having said that, these people will also give their phone number and email address to anyone who asks whereas I do not. If I have to enter a phone number on a form and it's isn't immediately obvious why I should do that then I'll make-up a number.

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Post by wetpaws »

My final and unfortunate solution for this was to stop accepting phone calls altogether. Friends/relatives know to use Skype and IM, all important stuff goes to voicemail, everything else is on permanent mute and ignore. I wonder if it is the case for more and more people.

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by lonelappde »

blackbrokkoli wrote: post #68

FFS USA, not every problem is a problem to solve by "the free market". You can see the America-Is-Great Mindset in a lot of these comments: Even the US has a problem with robocalls, so that must mean it's an unsolved problem obviously. So we have to solve it with our superior technology!! Just no. Almost nobody else in the western world has this problem. How? Regulation. In Germany, if you get reported for unsolicite…

If Europe would enforce its regulations against robocalls to the US, that would help. Thanks.

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Post by thieving_magpie »

blackbrokkoli wrote: post #68

FFS USA, not every problem is a problem to solve by "the free market". You can see the America-Is-Great Mindset in a lot of these comments: Even the US has a problem with robocalls, so that must mean it's an unsolved problem obviously. So we have to solve it with our superior technology!! Just no. Almost nobody else in the western world has this problem. How? Regulation. In Germany, if you get reported for unsolicite…

Thanks for the lecture but we do have regulations regarding phone calls. The laws are just being broken by citizens outside of the United States. This isn't uncommon in countries where English is the most widely spoken language.

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by aphextron »

blackbrokkoli wrote: post #68

FFS USA, not every problem is a problem to solve by "the free market". You can see the America-Is-Great Mindset in a lot of these comments: Even the US has a problem with robocalls, so that must mean it's an unsolved problem obviously. So we have to solve it with our superior technology!! Just no. Almost nobody else in the western world has this problem. How? Regulation. In Germany, if you get reported for unsolicite…

>Spam calling is not something were there is net value created for society so we need an elaborated discussion of what is ok and what is not (like e.g. paid universities).

Stanford is a "paid university". Harvard is too. Are you saying these institutions are a net negative to society? With free market capitalism you get the good and the bad, just like every other system in the world. The difference is you're given a choice.

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Post by ddspider »

astura wrote: post #143
MrGilbert wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recently, there as been a lot of calls where older people got called by a fake police detective. The display reads "110" (which is the emergency number for the police in germany). So, if there are countermeasures, they are not effective. Source: German Press release PD Westerstede early this year: https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/68440/4174253 Follow-Up a few months later, warning that it's still an issue: ht…

Can you explain the "fake detective scam?" How do they profit from convincing the older person they are a detective?

You can watch Kitboga on YouTube. He calls these centers and walks through the whole scam. Basically they use fear of an arrest to get the target to buy gift cards. It sounds dumb but it works on vulnerable members of society.

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Post by ceejayoz »

cookie_monsta wrote: post #76
spbaar wrote: post #18

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1. I'm really not sure yet. They haven't given any details publicly or privately. I'm most curious to see how this will be supported on iOS. 2. The demo on the keynote gave a great use case where a school nurse called the speaker about their child, and she was very lucky to pick up and not let it go to voicemail. There are still a lot of use cases for calls to hammer out important details, even if they are becoming r…

> a great use case where a school nurse called the speaker about their child, and she was very lucky to pick up and not let it go to voicemail. a) if you're a sloppy enough parent that you don't even have your kids' school phone number saved as a contact, I suspect you're accustomed to relying on luck. b) "Use our service or your children might die" is fairly over the top marketing, even for marketers.

My kids' school doesn't have one number. It varies, and they also use emergency alert systems (presumably via something like Twilio) that don't always come from a predictable number either.

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Post by ceejayoz »

jpearson wrote: post #17
kylek wrote: post #4

Is anything preventing debt collectors from being Verified by Twilio?

I would expect that legitimate debt collectors will be verified by Twilio. > Verified By Twilio displays company branding and a reason for the call right in front of the consumer This should make the purpose of debt collection calls obvious, though I don't see how they plan to enforce accurate call descriptions.

> I don't see how they plan to enforce accurate call descriptions.

A reporting/flagging system, perhaps? "This call wasn't as described". After enough reports, they lose the verified status.

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by dang »

blackbrokkoli wrote: post #68

FFS USA, not every problem is a problem to solve by "the free market". You can see the America-Is-Great Mindset in a lot of these comments: Even the US has a problem with robocalls, so that must mean it's an unsolved problem obviously. So we have to solve it with our superior technology!! Just no. Almost nobody else in the western world has this problem. How? Regulation. In Germany, if you get reported for unsolicite…

Would you please not post nationalistic flamebait to HN? It's against the guidelines and we don't want it here, regardless of which nation you have an issue with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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