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How to Teach an Iris Scanner That the Eye It’s Looking at Is Dead

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Re: How to Teach an Iris Scanner That the Eye It’s Looking at Is Dead

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I wonder if this could counter attacks using anesthesia (e.g. I shoot the guard with my tranq gun and drag him over to the scanner, MGS2 style.)

Does the eye still react to changes in brightness when a person is under anesthesia? I have no idea.

Re: How to Teach an Iris Scanner That the Eye It’s Looking at Is Dead

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> The method we developed images the eye multiple times to see whether it’s actually responding to changes in brightness This is new? In 2019? Really? I find that so hard to believe. > the process takes about 3 seconds WHAAAAT? WHY? > For comparison, even iris-recognition systems that require just one snapshot usually take about that much time to make an identification. I feel like Robin Williams fresh out of Jumanji…

Yeah that sounds terrible. It would be much better to detect saccades and/or blinks.

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Re: How to Teach an Iris Scanner That the Eye It’s Looking at Is Dead

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> The method we developed images the eye multiple times to see whether it’s actually responding to changes in brightness This is new? In 2019? Really? I find that so hard to believe. > the process takes about 3 seconds WHAAAAT? WHY? > For comparison, even iris-recognition systems that require just one snapshot usually take about that much time to make an identification. I feel like Robin Williams fresh out of Jumanji…

Yeah that sounds terrible. It would be much better to detect saccades and/or blinks.

You could replicate that with an eyeball mounted on gimbals.

Re: How to Teach an Iris Scanner That the Eye It’s Looking at Is Dead

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> The method we developed images the eye multiple times to see whether it’s actually responding to changes in brightness This is new? In 2019? Really? I find that so hard to believe. > the process takes about 3 seconds WHAAAAT? WHY? > For comparison, even iris-recognition systems that require just one snapshot usually take about that much time to make an identification. I feel like Robin Williams fresh out of Jumanji…

I was told once by some startup founders that there are iris scanning cameras that can acquire 50 irises per minute from a distance. I don't know if that is true, or what the resolution and accuracy would be, but nothing about that seems physically impossible to me.

Re: How to Teach an Iris Scanner That the Eye It’s Looking at Is Dead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah that sounds terrible. It would be much better to detect saccades and/or blinks.

You could replicate that with an eyeball mounted on gimbals.

Sure, you could replicate anything given enough budget. It wouldn't be trivial, as saccades and blinks are among the fastest motions made by the human body.

Re: How to Teach an Iris Scanner That the Eye It’s Looking at Is Dead

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I wonder if this could counter attacks using anesthesia (e.g. I shoot the guard with my tranq gun and drag him over to the scanner, MGS2 style.)

Does the eye still react to changes in brightness when a person is under anesthesia? I have no idea.

Anesthesia, yes. Paralytics, maybe. Depends on what you're using.

Re: How to Teach an Iris Scanner That the Eye It’s Looking at Is Dead

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> The method we developed images the eye multiple times to see whether it’s actually responding to changes in brightness This is new? In 2019? Really? I find that so hard to believe. > the process takes about 3 seconds WHAAAAT? WHY? > For comparison, even iris-recognition systems that require just one snapshot usually take about that much time to make an identification. I feel like Robin Williams fresh out of Jumanji…

>This is new? In 2019? Really? I find that so hard to believe.

Yeah, sure, why? Who needs that level of security? Governments that can already afford to pay someone to stand by that door if it's so important?

Re: How to Teach an Iris Scanner That the Eye It’s Looking at Is Dead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah that sounds terrible. It would be much better to detect saccades and/or blinks.

You could replicate that with an eyeball mounted on gimbals.

The saccades has properties that also differ per person.

Re: How to Teach an Iris Scanner That the Eye It’s Looking at Is Dead

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> The method we developed images the eye multiple times to see whether it’s actually responding to changes in brightness Hopefully the person does not have Argyll Robertson pupils https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyll_Robertson_pupil which is seen in late stage syphilis and causes the pupil not to react to the light. Also, another thing is that they should make sure that they train their system with dark eyed people.…

>Hopefully the person does not have Argyll Robertson pupils https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyll_Robertson_pupil which is seen in late stage syphilis and causes the pupil not to react to the light.

Or they (what percentage would that be?) could just use an alternative method. Like people with glass eyes would.

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