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Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by rsync »

HugoHobling wrote: post #19

I know it's overkill, but this is my current setup for my phone numbers. I treat phone numbers the same way I do my email address: I use different numbers for different purposes. 1. I have a "clean" phone number I only share with friends/family. Certain prefixes and phone number actually receive next to zero spam calls. This number has received 2 calls in the years I've had it. 2. I have a phone number I share with c…

"2. I have a phone number I share with companies / loyalty programs / etc."

How does this one work and who provides this number ?

I ask because a twilio number is not a mobile number and therefore cannot receive 2FA from "short codes".

I am sure you know what I am talking about and have run into this ... so I ask, if you have a number that you give out to "companies" (as I also do) do you have a mobile number that can accept SMS from shortcodes ?

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by bobbiechen »

whitehouse3 wrote: post #33
bobbiechen wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Has anyone set something like that up? Yes! I did "Captcha for phone calls" for a school project earlier this year. It would play a quick message along the lines of "Hey, to ring my phone just enter these numbers: XYZ", and redirect the call to my phone if the captcha was correct. The challenge was redirecting calls to the challenge even if they were originally directed to my phone number - the solution was to write…

Off topic: what kind of watch?

Tisell Bauhaus, a very plain and simple design (though not immune to being dropped, which is why I needed the repair).

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by jkaplowitz »

erichurkman wrote: post #22

> Even more concern, 70% of consumers don’t answer a call if the caller’s number is anonymous. The concerning part is 30% still answer the calls.

Unfortunately sometimes important callers use anonymous numbers. I recently had to deal with this in the public healthcare system where I live (not in the US).

A certain person who needed to give me an appointment kept calling at unpredictable afternoon and evening times from an anonymous number, ignoring the voicemails I left with my availability info, and not proposing specific times in her voicemails to me.

I did get the appointment in the end, but only by happening to notice one of her calls in real time - still from an anonymous number - and answering.

I'm told similar important uses of anonymous numbers aren't too rare in this public healthcare system.

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by jlizzle30 »

ozmbie wrote: post #38
HugoHobling wrote: post #19

I know it's overkill, but this is my current setup for my phone numbers. I treat phone numbers the same way I do my email address: I use different numbers for different purposes. 1. I have a "clean" phone number I only share with friends/family. Certain prefixes and phone number actually receive next to zero spam calls. This number has received 2 calls in the years I've had it. 2. I have a phone number I share with c…

Is this a uniquely American problem? My Australian mobile phone receives maybe one spam call per year. It’s my single phone and I give out the number to various businesses and people.

I think so. I never had this problem in Canada but it's been terrible since moving to the US.

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by commoner »

Does anyone have a recommendation for a call filtering app that does not leak your contact list to the app developer or a third party?

Open source is preferred, but any app with a solid privacy policy would do. It would be nice to see suggestions for both Android and iOS.

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by paranoidrobot »

ozmbie wrote: post #38
HugoHobling wrote: post #19

I know it's overkill, but this is my current setup for my phone numbers. I treat phone numbers the same way I do my email address: I use different numbers for different purposes. 1. I have a "clean" phone number I only share with friends/family. Certain prefixes and phone number actually receive next to zero spam calls. This number has received 2 calls in the years I've had it. 2. I have a phone number I share with c…

Is this a uniquely American problem? My Australian mobile phone receives maybe one spam call per year. It’s my single phone and I give out the number to various businesses and people.

It's primarily an American problem, but I've seen in the last year or two an uptick in certain kinds of Spammy activity to my Australian mobile number.

The most prominent type, and have appeared in the last two years are the one-ring-only calls from some foreign country. They're trying to get you to call back to some premium-rate number.

The second are SMS based random spam. Just an hour ago I got spam from "JbHiFi" (even though it's not them, I've never given JB my number) with phishing/spam "you won a contest". I also get random SMS spam from other sources.

Then again, if you have any kind of landline in a regional area you're going to get a ton of fake NBN/Telstra/ATO/etc scammers.

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by 0xdeadb00f »

ozmbie wrote: post #38
HugoHobling wrote: post #19

I know it's overkill, but this is my current setup for my phone numbers. I treat phone numbers the same way I do my email address: I use different numbers for different purposes. 1. I have a "clean" phone number I only share with friends/family. Certain prefixes and phone number actually receive next to zero spam calls. This number has received 2 calls in the years I've had it. 2. I have a phone number I share with c…

Is this a uniquely American problem? My Australian mobile phone receives maybe one spam call per year. It’s my single phone and I give out the number to various businesses and people.

I'm in Australia. I'd say I get between 5-10 spam calls a year.

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by gtirloni »

kerkeslager wrote: post #37

Just what we need, another startup injecting themselves into our lives. And then for the right price, "acceptable robocalls" can be Verified by Twilio™! SHAKEN/STIR[1] is a much more network-agnostic solution to the same problem, using essentially the same, well-established technology used by internet certificate authorities. As such, it has all the same basic problems that CAs do, but it's a hell of a lot better tha…

This doesn't seem any more open than Verified by Twilio.

Why would you trust Verizon/Comcast more than Twilio?

As not a customer of both, STIR/SHAKEN doesn't help me.

Re: Verified by Twilio

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Post by waffle_ss »

HugoHobling wrote: post #19

I know it's overkill, but this is my current setup for my phone numbers. I treat phone numbers the same way I do my email address: I use different numbers for different purposes. 1. I have a "clean" phone number I only share with friends/family. Certain prefixes and phone number actually receive next to zero spam calls. This number has received 2 calls in the years I've had it. 2. I have a phone number I share with c…

That sounds like a cool setup. I used to daydream about putting together a neat setup like that with Asterisk but over time I’ve actually regressed and even started giving out my direct cell number instead of my Google Voice.*

Having kids, buying a house/land, starting a business, contracting with services - every once in awhile I’ll get a high priority call that I really don’t want to be delayed (emergency at school or daycare, last minute problem with land/house offer, etc.). One time even my doggie daycare called because my dog had collapsed and they were doing CPR in the background and needed my consent to emergently administer epinephrine.

I also live in a rural area and I wonder if I tried to get a local business or contractor to return a call if they’d assume they had a wrong number if they called and a robot asked them to do a math problem. I know I’d not infrequently get confused voicemails with my Google Voice number (“Not sure I’ve got the right number but ...”).

So in the interest of not wanting to risk those rare important calls being delayed or blackholed I’m one of those luddite bozos who answers every call and has to deal with hanging up on the occasional spam call. :-)

* The other reasons I’m dropping Google Voice are 1) it seems like it noticeably affects call quality, at least in my area (particularly w.r.t. latency; I imagine there are fundamental round tripping issues since I’m in the midwest, and I’m sure the cell networks also have a lot to answer for here compounding the problem with the inherent latency of modern voice calls compared to the old POTS) and 2) I’m trying to get ahead of Google pulling the plug on the service and leaving me to track down and update phone number info everywhere and 3) not being able to do iOS stuff with other “blue text” phones (“call me on my other number in order to Facetime”)

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