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Post by aphextim »

yumraj wrote: post #62
huhtenberg wrote: post #15

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Mozilla is now openly peeing in Google's punch all the while being dependent on piles of money they take from it. At some point Google will get tired of this and will withdraw from the agreement. They won't be the default search provider, but that will play to their advantage - Firefox out-of-the-box user experience will take a sharp nose dive. Say all you want about DDG and alternatives, but they still can't hold a…

> Say all you want about DDG and alternatives I've been using DDG, finally, for a little less than 1 year. For most part my DDG searches have been sufficient, in the sense that I generally find what I'm looking for and my need is met. On few occasions where my need is not met, I do a !g and sometimes Google gives me what I want, but not in all the cases. I have to refine my search query in many, if not most, of those…

I've been enjoying using startpage.

https://www.startpage.com

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Post by stonogo »

dang wrote: post #96
stonogo wrote: post #80

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Assuming this is naivete and not a deliberate attempt to mislead... Firefox is an open source project, but here is no openness in the product management. The decisions regarding features to keep or discard are determined by politics internal to Mozilla.

> Assuming this is naivete and not a deliberate attempt to mislead Can you please edit out gratuitous swipes like that from your HN posts? It breaks a number of the site guidelines and your comment would be fine (with higher signal/noise) without it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I'm interested to know why you feel that way. "It's open source, so it's your fault something doesn't meet your preferences" is an extremely common conversation bomb in this space. I included the opening phrase to highlight the fact that I'm aware of the possibility that this was a bad-faith response, but I chose to interpret it in the best possible light.

What's gratuitous? Is "naive" considered an insult on Hacker News?

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Post by bdcravens »

mathnmusic wrote: post #118
EastSmith wrote: post #116

Mozilla needs to fork Chromium, build a super good privacy shield on top of it and thats it.

What would be the difference over Brave then?

I think the question most would ask is what does Brave offer? Outside of tech, I don't think most people are willing to experiment with new(ish) software unless there's a very compelling advantage (and for most, I don't think BAT is a feature)

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Post by kbutler »

Vinnl wrote: post #50
angrygoat wrote: post #16

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When Firefox decimated Internet Explorer in the 2000s, it was just... better. And I think Chrome had some fairly obvious gains over Firefox and IE which led it to gain market share. I was an early adopter of Chrome, but that was in the days before Google seemed so sinister... I use Firefox now because I care about privacy, and I'd rather use a browser developed by a non-profit that cares about that as well. But I sus…

Firefox was a lot better than IE, but decimated is not the right word. I think it had about 25% market share at its peak? Chrome might be better than Firefox for some use cases, but the difference is definitely not as big as it used to be between Firefox and IE. Yet its market share is way higher. Which leads me to think it's not (just) about being better. I'd guess lock-in/cross-product marketing is another major fa…

decimate: kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of.

Re: Thank you, Chris

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Post by bdcravens »

nautilus12 wrote: post #71

Been using firefox ever since chrome became unusuable from a memory perspective to use without the great suspender a few years back. Been happy with the change ever since. Hope the company continues to thrive.

I use Chrome with TGS, and I haven't really seen a disadvantage.

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Post by nvrspyx »

mirimir wrote: post #100

I mostly use DDG and Startpage. But sometimes Google, when I'm not having much luck. But not via Tor, obviously. And even VPNs can trigger Google's "you look like a bot". I used to love Metacrawler. And I see that it's back, but just drawing on Google and Yahoo!. Also by InfoSpace, Dogpile, which draws from more sources. But I haven't used either enough to say much.

Startpage already uses Google results. I guess Google's "personalized results" must have a significant impact if you've noticed differences.

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Post by stebann »

est31 wrote: post #119
cbsmith wrote: post #115

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> Yes, not many people use it It's a good 300 million people. Might be small in the grand scheme of things, but it's that's bigger than all but a handful of countries.

To be precise, it was 289 million on July 1st 2018, and 248 million on July 9th 2019. It was 239 million on August 24. Yes, the numbers are huge. Any product that has this many users would be considered a major success, but the trend is still troubling.

Anybody has some idea why that trend? Firefox is wonderful. I don't understand why more people aren't adopting this amazing browser.
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