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Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by thefj »

songshuu wrote: post #30
trpc wrote: post #18

1. Build a theme over Chromium 2. Add your ads and tracking system over it 3. Brand it as "X Browser" This is not a browser, this is a skin over Chrome with a business model that's built over a crypto scam. Your army of online shills and your attempts to connect yourselves with reputable online entities such as Wikipedia won't change that fact.

Eye roll on this take. If you have a better business model for content producers on the internet feel free to build it.

How about the business model the content producers choose for themselves, instead of one that is forced on them by a rent seeking company with good PR?

If I have ads on my site, I have no interest in someone replacing them and taking a cut.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by bsclifton »

trpc wrote: post #18

1. Build a theme over Chromium 2. Add your ads and tracking system over it 3. Brand it as "X Browser" This is not a browser, this is a skin over Chrome with a business model that's built over a crypto scam. Your army of online shills and your attempts to connect yourselves with reputable online entities such as Wikipedia won't change that fact.

(Brave employee here)

The Rewards feature of Brave is what allows users to pay creators and also opt-into ads. This feature is completely optional though. It's off by default and users never get bothered about it

Brave is actually a proper fork of the Chromium code-base and builds on top of it, which is a lot more involved than a theme. The work that's been done is fairly significant if you wanted to give it a try. Even if you never enable Rewards, there are some great features and under-the-hood tweaks for privacy, Ad-blocking, and tracking protection

There's a list of ways that Brave deviates from Chromium here for quick comparison: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-...

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by songshuu »

bilucy wrote: post #32

BAT token is tradable on exchanges, and price floats and is unstable. Donation receivers need to worry about exchange rates risk - https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/basic-attention-token How about USD or USD stable currencies for this?

Does BAT fluctuate that much?

Lately I see one of two things : 1. The market is up, BAT loses value because BTC sucks all the air out of the room with n00b investors. 2. The market is down, BAT loses value because BTC valuation scares off investors.

Otherwise, Brave/BAT team can announce features & partnerships all day long and the price literally never budges.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by jonathansampson »

snek wrote: post #33

Does brave still suck up money from people even when the site owner hasn't set up brave payments?

Not at all. If you have contributions/tips earmarked for a property that is not verified, those rest in your wallet for up to 90 days. If, during that period, the property becomes verified, the tokens are transferred. Otherwise, after the 90-day period, the tokens are released back within the wallet to be used elsewhere.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by chance_state »

snek wrote: post #33

Does brave still suck up money from people even when the site owner hasn't set up brave payments?

I think the answer is "not anymore" based on what's in their FAQ.

> Publishers must verify ownership of their properties with Brave in order to receive contributions from Brave users. If a publisher has not verified ownership, then a user’s contributions will be held in reserve inside the browser for 90 days. The browser routinely updates an internal list of all verified publishers to determine whether a property can receive contributions. At the end of the 90 day period, any contributions marked for unverified publishers will be released back to the wallet. No funds leave the browser except to go to verified creators.

> Previous versions of the Brave desktop browser worked differently. Until version 0.58.21, released on January 11, 2019, browsers with Brave Rewards enabled would contribute BAT to content creators whether or not they had verified. Brave would then hold contributed funds for those publishers in escrow until they’d verified.

https://brave.com/faq/

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by drngdds »

songshuu wrote: post #30
trpc wrote: post #18

1. Build a theme over Chromium 2. Add your ads and tracking system over it 3. Brand it as "X Browser" This is not a browser, this is a skin over Chrome with a business model that's built over a crypto scam. Your army of online shills and your attempts to connect yourselves with reputable online entities such as Wikipedia won't change that fact.

Eye roll on this take. If you have a better business model for content producers on the internet feel free to build it.

Patreon already exists

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by jayd16 »

jonathansampson wrote: post #13
seren wrote: post #3

I had never read the Brave ad model before. They want to display ads while respecting user privacy, which is nice from a user point of view, but do advertisers actually want that rather than being able to target 35-40 years old in Ohio that are using shaving products twice a week ?

Brave developer here. Great question! Brave Ads are entirely opt-in, and work via on-device machine-learning. The machine-learning bits study your browsing habits in a private, non-leaky manner. Once a day, your device downloads an aggregate catalog of many ad options to be studied locally. If/when an ad is found that fits your interests (as inferred by your browsing habits), the ad is displayed as an OS notification…

So it has to download every possible ad (to mask my identity/preference)?

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by vorticalbox »

bsclifton wrote: post #28
zargon wrote: post #12

I really like what Brave is doing. I wish it was built on Firefox instead of Chromium. I just don't see myself leaving Firefox without major upheaval in the browser space.

(Brave employee here) Curious: what are some of the shortfalls you see in Chromium? Before I joined Brave, the desktop browser was originally using Gecko (from Firefox). Ultimately, there were some problems and the decision was made to move to Chromium. On iOS, Brave is forked from Firefox though You can check out more detail on Reddit where folks asked why FF was not used (which has links to more detailed info): htt…

The monopoly google has over the web standard is probably the biggest issue.
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