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Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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I had never read the Brave ad model before. They want to display ads while respecting user privacy, which is nice from a user point of view, but do advertisers actually want that rather than being able to target 35-40 years old in Ohio that are using shaving products twice a week ?

They'd probably prefer targeted advertising, but if they have to choose between too many or too few people seeing their ad, they'd probably pick too many.

Generally speaking, Advertisers aim to get better value for their buck, so to speak. In the early days of online advertising, it was not uncommon to pay for impressions that may or may not be set before the eyes of a relevant audience. Around 2009 the process of Real-Time Bidding was created, and advertisers began to get better value, but at the expense of an unethical auction process that took place for each ad-slot on a page.

With Brave Ads, advertisers know that they're reaching a party that is interested (Brave Ads are opt-in). Advertisers know that attrition of value due to fraud and middle-men is reduced in our model. Users know that they don't have to sacrifice privacy or security to participate, and that on-device machine-learning progressively delivers a better experience over time.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see why it would matter what form you're paying the creator in. I suppose in the absence of an apple pay direct link, you'd have to just use apple pay to pay for BAT. I think there's some sort of "re-fill $X/month" feature, but I can't seem to find it. https://brave.com/funding-your-brave-wallet/

...Why not skip the middleman and just fund websites with, you know, USD? Obviously in the case of Wikipedia, we can donate (and please do so!) but I'd gladly throw $0.20 at a website to not get ads for a day or something.

Donating to individual websites is only possible in a few cases as it's a lot of hassle for the website operator to operate if it's a small site. Direct donations of a few cents would also won't be very effective because of the payment network fees involved.

I don't particularly like Brave but something that works on a higher level and is supported by sites seems to be an interesting experiment at least. If I click around on HN and 5 different newspapers ask me to sign up for their 15$/month subscription that can't be the future.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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I really like what Brave is doing. I wish it was built on Firefox instead of Chromium. I just don't see myself leaving Firefox without major upheaval in the browser space.

(Brave employee here)

Curious: what are some of the shortfalls you see in Chromium?

Before I joined Brave, the desktop browser was originally using Gecko (from Firefox). Ultimately, there were some problems and the decision was made to move to Chromium. On iOS, Brave is forked from Firefox though

You can check out more detail on Reddit where folks asked why FF was not used (which has links to more detailed info): https://www.reddit.com/r/BATProject/comments/9jpqde/brave_br...

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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I had never read the Brave ad model before. They want to display ads while respecting user privacy, which is nice from a user point of view, but do advertisers actually want that rather than being able to target 35-40 years old in Ohio that are using shaving products twice a week ?

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Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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1. Build a theme over Chromium 2. Add your ads and tracking system over it 3. Brand it as "X Browser" This is not a browser, this is a skin over Chrome with a business model that's built over a crypto scam. Your army of online shills and your attempts to connect yourselves with reputable online entities such as Wikipedia won't change that fact.

Eye roll on this take.

If you have a better business model for content producers on the internet feel free to build it.

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