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Re: Cruise-line companies are building private Caribbean play zones

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Post by pasiaj » Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 10:06 AM UTC

staticautomatic wrote: post #58

Nokinside wrote: post #20

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First word, third world clash in the service industry is real but you should not react with emotion only. What you need to consider is the opportunity cost for those workers. Opportunity cost = (return of best alternative not taken) - (return of a chosen option). If the work at cruise company is the best opportunity for the low paid Filipino worker, you should just be generally horrified how hard the life in third wo…

"pure exploitation and abuse" happens to foreign cruise ship workers all the time and is exceptionally well documented.

Please provide a link to the aforementioned exceptional documentation.

Re: Cruise-line companies are building private Caribbean play zones

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Post by staticautomatic » Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 2:28 PM UTC

pasiaj wrote: post #61

staticautomatic wrote: post #58

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"pure exploitation and abuse" happens to foreign cruise ship workers all the time and is exceptionally well documented.

Please provide a link to the aforementioned exceptional documentation.

https://story.californiasunday.com/below-deck

Re: Cruise-line companies are building private Caribbean play zones

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Post by the_seraphim » Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 3:48 PM UTC

staticautomatic wrote: post #62

pasiaj wrote: post #61

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Please provide a link to the aforementioned exceptional documentation.

https://story.californiasunday.com/below-deck

Guy earns almost 10 times his normal expected wage for 6 years, working only double the 40 hour week he expected.

After fucking loving it for 6 years he gets sick and received shitty treatment from a doctor but then when he gets really sick, he gets sent to a nice as fuck medical facility, on 4 months sick pay with his medical bills covered for 3 months.

then they wont hire him back because he wont indemnify the company for liability.

hmmm...

if he put even 10% of his wages into some kind of insurance he would be covered now and now in the literal shit (and he would have felt happy to return to the carnival line as he knew he could fall back on the medical insurance if necessary for further treatment)

in the mean time, the guy has earned a full 60 years worth of wages from his previous shitty job, and while his kids are now in a private school with high fees (did he not save any of his money?!?) his out of work status has come at a poor time for him (shit happens, even in the 1st world)

I just dont feel too sorry for the guy, sue me...

now excuse me while i go back to waiting for my NHS appointment for my back pain... its only in december. If it goes like my knee surgery, i should be treated sometime around 2021, but at least i wont be bankrupt like i would in the states.

life sucks, man made poor choices while raking the dough, now its carnival lines fault alledgedly

Re: Cruise-line companies are building private Caribbean play zones

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Post by the_seraphim » Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 3:54 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #44

fasicle wrote: post #22

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"How bad this form of travel is for... the visited cities" I was holidaying in Split, Croatia when the MS Queen Elizabeth [1] docked and thousands of people descended onto the city from it. The quiet city became absolutely packed with tour groups from the ship, completely ruined the atmosphere. I guess the cruise tourists do bring in quite a bit of money from eating in the restaurants, buying souvenirs etc, so not th…

> I guess the cruise tourists do bring in quite a bit of money from eating in the restaurants, buying souvenirs etc, so not that much of a negative for the locals. "Locals" aren't a homogenous group. The city budget does benefit, and so do people working in businesses serving tourists directly - restaurants, gift shops, hotels, ticket offices, etc. Everyone else hates it. Tourism, especially of intermittent kind, dis…

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