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Nitpick- Should this be, "leaving his role"? How about: Chris Beard will be leaving his role as Mozilla CEO

Leaving has a negative connotation

Does it? What alternative accurate wording would you suggest? Everything else I can think of is euphemism. Leaving a job is ... leaving a job. It doesn't say why.

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Is he jumping out of the ship before it sinks? I made a proposal for making mozilla sustainable: https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/24026 BTW does anyone know why 2018 is the first year from Mozilla where finance results were not published? Is there anyway to know how much less money they make than in 2017 (500 millions$)

Audited financials for year X are typically published sometime late in year X+1. You can't start the process until year X ends (or more likely until after the relevant tax filing deadlines in all the countries involved have passed, so certainly not until mid-April and possibly later), and it typically takes months to do the audit.

So for example, if you look at https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2017/mozilla-fdn-201... (which is the 2017 financials for Mozilla), it's dated "September 26, 2018" (see page 4 of the PDF, page 2 of the actual document). The equivalent document covering 2016 is at https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2016/2016_Mozilla_Au... and is dated "September 26, 2017".

It's not September 26, 2019 yet. ;)

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I hope whoever replaces him will inspire the Firefox team to stop dropping support for features I use. Probably not, but one can dream.

Firefox is an open source project. I'm sure if you pitched in with time and / or money to maintain said features, they'd be much less likely to disappear.

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Farewell Chris, thanks for your hard work killing Thunderbird and sinking Firefox into complete irrelevance while alienating all power users, the only ones you had left.

I mean I know how little hn likes negative comments but there's literally nothing positive I can think of what this CEO has done to Mozilla.

May Mozilla find the CEO they deserve.

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Chris was great from what I have seen, but I think Mozilla needs a CEO that knows how to increase market share.

Mozilla is now openly peeing in Google's punch all the while being dependent on piles of money they take from it. At some point Google will get tired of this and will withdraw from the agreement. They won't be the default search provider, but that will play to their advantage - Firefox out-of-the-box user experience will take a sharp nose dive. Say all you want about DDG and alternatives, but they still can't hold a…

On the flipside, Chrome went from being the best browser on the market to a bloated spying machine, and I'm very glad firefox exists to offer an alternative.

If on top of that, they manage to do it using Google's dough, I say bravo and hope they'll remain smart enough to feed from the vampire for a long time

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't help but wonder how Brendan Eich would have fared in the job.

According to Brendan, Firefox OS would be more popular with gay marriage opponents in Indonesia, if only it were more inclusive and tolerant of anti-gay bigotry. https://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-ceo-gay-marriage-firestorm... >Now, in his first interview on the subject, Eich is responding with a message that Mozilla is at its core inclusive -- not just of gay-marriage supporters but also of people like him or gay-mar…

During that time, Firefox OS was their big push, so it would make sense that he'd discuss it. It doesn't seem like he's saying, now, Firefox OS would be a hit.

He also goes on to say that the company has people of varying opinions politically. Personally, I'm for gay marriage and when it is brought up as a religious ceremony being yanked from the church, I typically say that had already happened when the various governments started applying tax benefits and the like to marriage and no one was arguing against the secular government taking a more active role on marriage then (plus, the whole divorce thing). There are those who would disagree with that stance (to varying degrees and in either direction) and that's fine.

What he's advocating is that his or any of his coworkers' personal beliefs of whatever direction should not have any affect on their ability to deliver on Mozilla's goals. Honestly, he's more or less right. There have also been cases where people have been steered from beliefs and/or actions because they had conversations with people of differing views (Chickfila's CEO in some of his donations to programs that were directly detrimental to LGBT for one [1]). If you kick all of the people out who disagree with you, you create tribes. And it is highly unlikely those tribes are going to start drifting towards your beliefs at that point. In fact, it is more likely to harden their beliefs.

[1] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a_b_25643...

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Chris was great from what I have seen, but I think Mozilla needs a CEO that knows how to increase market share.

When Firefox decimated Internet Explorer in the 2000s, it was just... better. And I think Chrome had some fairly obvious gains over Firefox and IE which led it to gain market share. I was an early adopter of Chrome, but that was in the days before Google seemed so sinister... I use Firefox now because I care about privacy, and I'd rather use a browser developed by a non-profit that cares about that as well. But I sus…

its so obvious that native ad blocking could be that feature. when a non-tech user opens up a browser with ad blocking it blows their mind. they go to youtube and put on a song, and wait! they don't have to reach for the mute first to silence some loud ad? they don't have to wait to click "skip" on the ad? it just works?? the user just wants the content and we can give it to them.

imo this would be the step from chrome, which will never implement it because they depend on it. but the web is not ads. the web can survive without ads.

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