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Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by RyanGWU82 »

Bud wrote: post #61
there wrote: post #38

is this why at&t dropped the iphone 3gs to $50 today? http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/atandt-selling-iphone-3gs...

I'd say no, totally unrelated, since: a) it wasn't today b) that phone is now dated and was only $99 before; $50 less isn't a big deal considering that the real price includes a 2-yr contract

Yes, but smart phone buyers are going to enter a contract regardless. The iPhone contract is no more expensive than competing smart phones' contracts. When carriers compete on price, they're almost always competing on the price of the device itself.

I mean, really, did anyone expect the iPhone to drop from $499 to $49 in three years?!

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by jawee »

This is certainly going to increase some iPhone marketshare in my area where AT&T has essentially no service. I know some people already that have iPhones and an additional cheap phone from Verizon or somebody to be able to reliably communicate.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by jawee »

dantheman wrote: post #12
joshu wrote: post #8

I am absurdly excited about this, mostly because I am in hate with my Droid. However, the gmail and contacts integration on Droid is top notch. Am I going to be less happy on iphone?

gmail on iphone sucks - because of apple

Well, considering most of the cloud integration goodness on iPhone is only possible with Google products, I don't think you can complain too much. iPhone is just as Google-dependent for the full experience as is Android. I will say that Google needs to develop a G-Mail app on par with its Android equivalent for iOS, but using the default mail client with IMAP works just fine in reality; it is the same basic experience as any other third party client.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by tdfx »

blinkingled wrote: post #26
rscott wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, does anyone seriously know who these "analysts" are and what their job actually entails?

I've wondered about the same. Here is the public info about one such analyst Gene Munster - http://www.piperjaffray.com/1col.aspx?id=7&analystid=131 . Some choice bits - "specializing in Internet" , "holds a bachelor's degree in financial management and new venture strategies from the University of St. Thomas" "coverage includes Google, Yahoo!, Amazon, Baidu, and MercadoLibre" . Sounds like a good gig to me! Someone…

Small world. I specialize in internet, too.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by JshWright »

jsz0 wrote: post #74
T_S_ wrote: post #50

Too little too late. I just got off a call with my wife (SV to the Bay Bridge, iPhone to iPhone) and it only dropped 4 times. I just relocated to my number to SV a couple of months ago and I only had to call 4 times to get all the features back to what they were. Plus I got over being mad about having no message at all for callers to my old number. Also, I really don't mind calling AT&T every couple of months to find…

Is Verizon any better in that respect? I remember Verizon getting slammed for mysterious data charges and famously it took them years to sort out their FIOS billing system. I don't think of Verizon as a company with a reputation for great customer support. I would actually consider switching to Verizon simply because AT&T can't seem to figure out how to make my auto pay work correctly. It fails every month. I wait fo…

Verizon Wireless and Verizon Communications (FIOS, landline, etc) are two very different entities. Most of the horror stories you (or at least _I_) hear are about Verizon Communications.

Verizon Wireless actually gives their CSRs a _lot_ of authority to take care the customer on the phone. While any company with the number of customer interactions that VZW has will generate some horror stories, on the whole, I think VZW is one of the better big companies out there when it comes to support.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by juiceandjuice »

JshWright wrote: post #85
jsz0 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Verizon any better in that respect? I remember Verizon getting slammed for mysterious data charges and famously it took them years to sort out their FIOS billing system. I don't think of Verizon as a company with a reputation for great customer support. I would actually consider switching to Verizon simply because AT&T can't seem to figure out how to make my auto pay work correctly. It fails every month. I wait fo…

Verizon Wireless and Verizon Communications (FIOS, landline, etc) are two very different entities. Most of the horror stories you (or at least _I_) hear are about Verizon Communications. Verizon Wireless actually gives their CSRs a _lot_ of authority to take care the customer on the phone. While any company with the number of customer interactions that VZW has will generate some horror stories, on the whole, I think…

Except that VZW's number one priority when they get a call is to upsell.

My friend took a job their for a bit after losing his previous job as a claims adjuster and absolutely hated it. The managers would listen in on calls and if you didn't try to upsell at least once, you'd get written up.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by juiceandjuice »

loire280 wrote: post #66
T_S_ wrote: post #50

Too little too late. I just got off a call with my wife (SV to the Bay Bridge, iPhone to iPhone) and it only dropped 4 times. I just relocated to my number to SV a couple of months ago and I only had to call 4 times to get all the features back to what they were. Plus I got over being mad about having no message at all for callers to my old number. Also, I really don't mind calling AT&T every couple of months to find…

AT&T's reception problems seem to be mostly concentrated in a few large cities -- most notably NY and SV/San Fransisco. I'm a longtime AT&T customer and recent iPhone owner. I've lived in Milwaukee and Phoenix, and their reception is on par with the other carriers in those cities. NY and SV are, in my opinion, the last places you'd want poor service (because it will be discussed nationwide), but I don't think that th…

I have AT&T/iPhone 3GS and live in SV and my service sucks. After I moved here though I asked some other coworkers what they thought about Verizon/T-Mobile and I mostly got the feeling that everybody sucks, and Verizon is maybe marginally better, but the people I know with Verizon phones aren't really happy with their service either.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by dantheman »

jawee wrote: post #83
dantheman wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

gmail on iphone sucks - because of apple

Well, considering most of the cloud integration goodness on iPhone is only possible with Google products, I don't think you can complain too much. iPhone is just as Google-dependent for the full experience as is Android. I will say that Google needs to develop a G-Mail app on par with its Android equivalent for iOS, but using the default mail client with IMAP works just fine in reality; it is the same basic experienc…

Apple doesn't allow 3rd party mail clients.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by ohhmaagawd »

TheCoreh wrote: post #46

This carrier exclusivity thing on the US amuses me. In the end, consumers are the ones hurt, 'cause it limits the available choices. Here in Brazil we have regulatory agencies that set up rules against that kind of thing. SIM locking by carriers is also illegal here. (Not actually illegal , but they're legally required to unlock the phones for you without additional cost) I'm pretty sure a lot of other countries have…

depends on if you believe in free markets I guess. the market has seemed to resolved this situation - iPhone is going multi-carrier in the US

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by gaiusparx »

TheCoreh wrote: post #46

This carrier exclusivity thing on the US amuses me. In the end, consumers are the ones hurt, 'cause it limits the available choices. Here in Brazil we have regulatory agencies that set up rules against that kind of thing. SIM locking by carriers is also illegal here. (Not actually illegal , but they're legally required to unlock the phones for you without additional cost) I'm pretty sure a lot of other countries have…

Hong Kong and Singapore has similar rules by their authorities. In one way you can say US prefers to practice free market. Or you can say US government does not care about their citizens. Or US government treats their corporations better than people.
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