I've developed extremely painful RSI since getting this awful laptop and can't even start work in the morning until the diclofenac and pain killers have kicked in. Possibly related.
MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy
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#512MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015) user here. I love this MacBook. It's the best laptop I have ever owned. My girlfriend has a recent MacBook Pro and it's just worse. The keyboard sucks, it's thin but feels metalic/heavy. It also gets super warm with a bit of CPU usage.
And her personal MacBook from 2017 is also worse, the keyboard doesn't work properly a lot of the times and you cannot clean it. Keys have been stuck multiple times.
The 2015 MacBook Pro is just superior and I am very hesitant to buy a new one. I just want this model with better specs.
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#513As a curiosity, folks with consistently breaking keyboards on newer macbooks: Do you eat at or while using your laptop?
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#514Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm off the Apple train. I honestly don't trust them to make reliable hardware anymore. They've had three years to fix this mess but they have shown zero initiative or intention to do it. Apple has consistently shown that it cares more about form over function. No one needs their laptops to be any thinner than they already are. And no one needs the useless, expensive touchbar.
I just bought a second hand 2015 macbook pro and I hope it will last me years. But I was looking at Surface books and unless something changes, I too will be off Macbooks. Which sucks because if I could just keep the exterior and have better cpu+ram+hdd, I'd be perfectly happy.
I have a Surface Pro 4, and I like it but have a warning: Surface devices cannot be repaired. At all. If anything goes wrong with your Surface Book, you only option is to swap it out with a refurb. If you're out-of-warranty, this costs $600 for the Book.
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#515I've developed extremely painful RSI since getting this awful laptop and can't even start work in the morning until the diclofenac and pain killers have kicked in. Possibly related.
Maybe you shouldn't be typing on laptop keyboards at all if you're getting RSI. Get an ergo keyboard. Your hands are worth it.
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#516The monotony of this complaint is driving me crazy. It's really simple. 1. If you don't care about MacOS, and want a different keyboard, please buy a Lenovo Carbon X1 and leave us happy Macbook Pro users in peace. 2. If your keyboard breaks, Apple will replace it free. The newer gen keyboards generally don't break. 3. If you really can't type on this keyboard and you really love MacOS, there are lots of decent thin B…
> 1. If you don't care about MacOS, and want a different keyboard, please buy a Lenovo Carbon X1 and leave us happy Macbook Pro users in peace. I would gladly get a Carbon X1 or an XPS 15 if my work didn't require me to use macOS (or better: if Apple didn't require me to use macOS to build iOS apps). Sadly I can't and so I'm too stuck with a 2018 MacBook Pro and its crappy keyboard > 2. If your keyboard breaks, Apple…
> my work
That’s a lot of words to express that you never feel truly free.
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#517Earlier quoted context omitted.
I switched to apple ecosystem because I wanted the UX that just works reliably. MacOS is for me linux with ultrapolished DE. Bonus is that I can work on iOS apps and use Apple Photos which is way better for me than Google Photos. I used Arch Linux for many years before MacOS. I also switched to iPhone from Android. Wanted a phone that works in the same ecosystem (photos...) and is fast, reliable and does not change u…
To be fair, you started with arch which requires some attention. Most professional users use Ubuntu since it's fairly polished and "just works".
I had more problems with Ubuntu (especially after big updates) than Arch. For me Arch, after initial setup, was the closest to "just work" linux of all the distros I tried, and I tried them alot over the years. And when something breaks in Arch, I find it much easier to fix problems with Arch than other distros because they keep things as close to upstream as possible and have great wiki.
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#518I’m late to the party, but I’ve personally had my keyboard replaced at least 3 times, the logic board replaced 2x, the display replaced 1x, and the entire unit replaced entirely (all under warranty, albeit AppleCare+).
To say that I regret selling my “tortoise” of a 2015 MBP is an understatement.
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#519The monotony of this complaint is driving me crazy. It's really simple. 1. If you don't care about MacOS, and want a different keyboard, please buy a Lenovo Carbon X1 and leave us happy Macbook Pro users in peace. 2. If your keyboard breaks, Apple will replace it free. The newer gen keyboards generally don't break. 3. If you really can't type on this keyboard and you really love MacOS, there are lots of decent thin B…
> 1. If you don't care about MacOS, and want a different keyboard, please buy a Lenovo Carbon X1 and leave us happy Macbook Pro users in peace. I would gladly get a Carbon X1 or an XPS 15 if my work didn't require me to use macOS (or better: if Apple didn't require me to use macOS to build iOS apps). Sadly I can't and so I'm too stuck with a 2018 MacBook Pro and its crappy keyboard > 2. If your keyboard breaks, Apple…
> My company has already shelled out a couple grands for this machine, suggesting to use a Bluetooth keyboard is offensive given the price point of this laptop and how cumbersome and uncomfortable using an external keyboard on a laptop is.
I'd honestly describe using the built-in keyboard (and especially trackpad) on most laptops as cumbersome and uncomfortable.
Unless you really need to have a mobile workstation - running between meetings, conference rooms, into lots of labs/industrial environments where you can't bring a laptop cart with monitor/keyboard...why would you not dock the machine?
Even if you prefer the feel of the keyboard or trackpad, wouldn't you want the ergonomics to be better than a laptop if you're working on it all day? A pair or trio of 20+ inch displays mounted just below eye height at about reach distance, ergonomic keyboard with elbows at about 90 degrees, and full size mouse will always be a better workstation than the nicest laptop keyboard, trackpad, and 15" display hinged to said keyboard.
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#520Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, but when you throw around $2000 you'd expect a better product. Especially when you come from an older version of the device. And every customer has the right to complain about this. So no, they won't leave you in peace - they got every right to do so. Apple did a bad thing and took years to recognize it. (typing on a mechanical keyboard attached to a Thinkpad T480)
Sorry, but Apple did a really great thing with this keyboard. I absolutely love it, and its a shame that its going away because people like to complain on the internet.
Do you think they’d actually get rid of it if only some people were experiencing this and complaining?
They’re a massive corporation that has realized in some way that it would benefit them the most to move away from that keyboard. They’ve probably seen how much they spend on replacing them and have done user surveys and probably a dozen other things before they reverse a multi year decision that is going to cost them to change their production line for the keyboards.