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#2Can someone explain why this is the issue causing so much resistance? I know China's a totalitarian dystopia, but intra-country extradition seems like a perfectly reasonable thing even if there are "two systems" within that country.
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#3Can someone explain why this is the issue causing so much resistance? I know China's a totalitarian dystopia, but intra-country extradition seems like a perfectly reasonable thing even if there are "two systems" within that country.
There's a part of mistrust because of the absence of independent judiciary in mainland China. Then, it's also been a pretext to trigger something much bigger.
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#4Can someone explain why this is the issue causing so much resistance? I know China's a totalitarian dystopia, but intra-country extradition seems like a perfectly reasonable thing even if there are "two systems" within that country.
You may feel differently if your crime is “political dissidence” and you’re now facing a mainland China trial instead of a Hong Kong trial.
Extradition basically gives China judicial authority over whatever they want in Hong Kong
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#5Can someone explain why this is the issue causing so much resistance? I know China's a totalitarian dystopia, but intra-country extradition seems like a perfectly reasonable thing even if there are "two systems" within that country.
You may feel differently if your crime is “political dissidence” and you’re now facing a mainland China trial instead of a Hong Kong trial. Extradition basically gives China judicial authority over whatever they want in Hong Kong
Agree. There is evidence that such a law will be used for political purposes.
See the case of the Huawei CFO Meng Hongwei that was about sanction violations. She was arrested in Canada and is about to be extradited to USA. The extradition bill extends this power (to retaliate) for the CCP to Hong Kong, an economical hub in Asia.
As anecdotal evidence, see the case of Cathay Pacific, an airline company based in Hong Kong that makes business in China: There were anti-extradition demonstrations at the airport, and some employees of Cathay participated. The CCP demanded their names and their immediate layoff. Instead, the CEO only named himself on the list, and was promptly removed.
However, this sends a strong signal: If you occupy a leading position in a company that may be "on the list" (e.g., listing Taiwan as a country, company based in Canada/USA, employees participated in demonstrations, or "hurting the feelings of the Chinese people" in any way), don't go to Hong Kong anymore.
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#6Can someone explain why this is the issue causing so much resistance? I know China's a totalitarian dystopia, but intra-country extradition seems like a perfectly reasonable thing even if there are "two systems" within that country.
It's not exactly what you see it as. Communism is failing in China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deng_Xiaoping When Mao died the inland folks went to capitalism. Hong Kong because of proper capitalism and small government became a gigantic hub of success. Which made Shenzhen and guangdong blow up in size.
GDP of Guangdong in the year 2000 was around 130 million USD. Which is pathetic, there are buildings in hong Kong worth more than that. Today Guangdong is worth over a billion in gdp; because they made it a free trade zone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenzhen#/media/File:Shenzhen,...
All because of capitalism and free trade.
Then this guy took power: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_Jinping
He supports communism but communism is dying.
The problem is that Trump's trade war is also not what you think it is; and the death blow just happened. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/10/trump...
This has actually been conceded. https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/its-official-no-mo...
It's official. So chinese exports just got tremendously more expensive. People will buy less from China.
Greece's public debt for their crash was about 300%. Which resulted in 30% unemployment and 50% poverty. Greece's communist policies did this to them; it's about to do it to China.
Hong Kong doesn't want to be apart of that crash. Hong Kong will be used to liquidate and prolong the Chinese crash.