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MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Buy a Thinkpad and install Hackintosh.

I was so done with both the MacBook and MacBook Pro keyboards that I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad T480s. Installed Hackintosh, running the latest macOS Mojave 10.14.5 without issues (only drawback is that the Touchpad on the MacBooks are better).

Finally I can type again.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Great, will they be offering free trade-ins? These are $2000 computers that have a major broken component. Not to mention, the second a computer comes on sale that doesn't have this issue, the resale value of the current MacBooks will be disproportionately affected compared to previous revisions. So a nice double whammy: a miserable experience during its use, and an unusually small resale value afterwards.

To be fair they are offering free keyboard replacement.

And it takes anywhere from to to get it replaced because they basically have to replace the entire laptop just to replace the keyboard.

And the times are worse outside the US.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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I really wish this was the top comment. I feel like HN is turning a little too much into an echo chamber dunk fest sometimes.

Cut us some slack, we're all spending _all_ our time on shit keyboards.

Still using a 2011 ThinkPad precisely because of the keyboard.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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I just bought a dell xps 15 9570 for this reason. Looking into figuring out how to put Ubuntu on it. I'm not sure I like WSL. I'm sorry for Apple there was a time I'd laugh at people reading what I just wrote for myself. For all the bugginess that Windows OS is the hardware of these PC laptops have caught up. I can't justify it anymore if I can't type on the ting.

WSL2 (beta now, out Q1 2020) will be a straight up linux kernel. It might better suit your needs, if you want to try it now MS has free ISO for testing you can run in a VM and toss when done.. .

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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I switched to a Thinkpad after I had the horror of using a new Macbook. Running Ubuntu is lovely, so much so that for a developer there is little reason to be using a Macbook anymore. You can get a lot more bang for the buck using a Thinkpad AND have a functional keyboard. Apple should be very worried. Once they loose the developers, users won't be long to follow.

There are four of us at work that use Linux--the other 30 or so all have MacBooks. There are no converts, either you started a Linux person, or you started a Mac person. My little Linux enclave has some theories about the cognitive effect of all the polish that you find on Apple products, but we can't separate our biasses from good science, especially because there's nobody to ask that knows both worlds. So I have a…

I’d like to hear your thoughts on this, real evidence be damned.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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I switched to a Thinkpad after I had the horror of using a new Macbook. Running Ubuntu is lovely, so much so that for a developer there is little reason to be using a Macbook anymore. You can get a lot more bang for the buck using a Thinkpad AND have a functional keyboard. Apple should be very worried. Once they loose the developers, users won't be long to follow.

There are four of us at work that use Linux--the other 30 or so all have MacBooks. There are no converts, either you started a Linux person, or you started a Mac person. My little Linux enclave has some theories about the cognitive effect of all the polish that you find on Apple products, but we can't separate our biasses from good science, especially because there's nobody to ask that knows both worlds. So I have a…

I switched to apple ecosystem because I wanted the UX that just works reliably. MacOS is for me linux with ultrapolished DE. Bonus is that I can work on iOS apps and use Apple Photos which is way better for me than Google Photos. I used Arch Linux for many years before MacOS. I also switched to iPhone from Android. Wanted a phone that works in the same ecosystem (photos...) and is fast, reliable and does not change ux very much with new releases. On android I tinkered with the phone too much, various companies have different ux, and I started to dislike Google very much after they started randomly shutting down services as they like and one year after introducing them.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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To be fair they are offering free keyboard replacement.

And they replace it with a keyboard with the same design flaws. I have replaced mine several times now and am left without a computer for a week every time.

I'm hoping t get Hackintosh running on a lenovo yoga so I can replace my keyboard one last time and sell the POS.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

#278

I switched to a Thinkpad after I had the horror of using a new Macbook. Running Ubuntu is lovely, so much so that for a developer there is little reason to be using a Macbook anymore. You can get a lot more bang for the buck using a Thinkpad AND have a functional keyboard. Apple should be very worried. Once they loose the developers, users won't be long to follow.

There are four of us at work that use Linux--the other 30 or so all have MacBooks. There are no converts, either you started a Linux person, or you started a Mac person. My little Linux enclave has some theories about the cognitive effect of all the polish that you find on Apple products, but we can't separate our biasses from good science, especially because there's nobody to ask that knows both worlds. So I have a…

The primary difference is whether you think it's alright to spend £35 on a single simple cable or not. Many things that follow simply hinge on that.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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What about if they have a touch bar but also have a hardware escape key? That's really the only thing about the touch bar Mac keyboard layout that I hate. (I don't actually mind the feel of the butterfly keys -- I'm typing on them now -- but I don't love them, either. Although if they kept this key feel, maybe just doubled the travel, and brought the reliability back in line with the older scissor switches, I'd be to…

Remap caps lock.

I wish I could remap my MBP arrowkeys to grow up and be full-sized keys...

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

#280

I know this topic has been done to death on HN, but this remains a persistent concern. I've had two keyboard replacements. If you haven't had it done, it's a "topcase" replacement - which involved a good half of the machine. It's a big change and I was told to allow for 5 business days as well. My Macbook Pro is out of the 4 year replacement window - and the Spacebar is starting to fail. I've owned every form-factor…

> My Macbook Pro is out of the 4 year replacement window - and the Spacebar is starting to fail.

If you're out of the 4-year replacement window, then your MBP must not be a 2016 or newer model.

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