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A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by lopmotr »

Angostura wrote: post #202
notahacker wrote: post #191

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More straightforwardly, the reputation for being massive cheapskates gets its target market of people who don't care about airlines at all and just want a good deal knowing who they are and going straight to Ryanair.com to buy tickets when they need to fly. Which means that (i) they'll lookup the price and be upsold a package on Ryanair.com rather than finding the price and a different hotel deal on some other price…

I used to use Ryanair... until I found out how they treated wheelchair users. I'm happy for myself to be treated like a piece of meat. Not other, more vulnerable users. Screw Ryanair.

What are wheelchair users vulnerable to besides physical assault? They can still travel just as readily as able-bodied people in planes, cars, trains, boats, etc. Neither can simply walk across the sea to another country.

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kuzimoto wrote: post #318
Aeolun wrote: post #308

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I’m not so certain about that actually, I’ve certainly seen people making $20k that had more free money and recreation time than some people making $100k. Especially as regards recreation time. To be fair, making $20k was almost always a choice in those cases.

How were those people living? Are they single people in their mid 20s with no significant other or kids? Are they making enough to put some towards retirement? I guess if you're willing to sacrifice some things it could work. You're definitely not raising a family of 3-4 in a nicer neighborhood with that amount.

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Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

HyperTalk2 wrote: post #231
Angostura wrote: post #202

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I used to use Ryanair... until I found out how they treated wheelchair users. I'm happy for myself to be treated like a piece of meat. Not other, more vulnerable users. Screw Ryanair.

No one knows what you're talking about. I'll hazard a guess. Is it the SINGLE INCIDENT ONE YEAR AGO where someone broke the rules by not folding their wheelchair because they didn't know how to do it? Something that no one else has ever complained about because people typically know how to fold their own wheelchair? Something that WASN'T EVEN A PROBLEM because the woman was later able to figure it out and was rebooke…

All caps for emphasis are against the HN guidelines.

What about the one incident in 2004 when they had to be taken to the High Court, on behalf of hundreds or thousands, to provide the legally required wheelchair transfers? Or the one incident where the disabled lad was left behind a day? Or the many one incidents disabled users have reported of being dropped from Ryanair flights because the airline couldn't be arsed to spend the time? Or the many single incidents of wheelchair users reporting that despite the UK and Irish court rulings Ryanair weren't allowing access to the wheelchair at the destination airports?

I've never heard of the incident you mention btw, but the thousands of reports are plenty to give me a view of Ryanair were I ever to end up disabled.

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by WalterBright »

omegaham wrote: post #321
WalterBright wrote: post #232

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Just look at the mania for wearing torn jeans.

At least jeans manufacturers weren't marketing based on the unblemished workmanship of their jeans. Their typical message is "Jeans are worn by rugged, individualist people. You want to be a rugged independent person, right?" And I think that torn jeans can fit into that. Like, a farmer might rip his jeans and keep wearing them or something, so ripped jeans might make you look even more rugged and individualist. Choc…

Black pearls were worthless until some enterprising jeweler made a thing out of them being black.

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by sersi »

megaremote wrote: post #348
sersi wrote: post #346

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I flew only once with Ryan air, my experience was that I was forced to pay 80 gbp because I hadn't checked in online (when no other airlines force you to do that) and they had us all wait on the tarmac under the rain for 45 minutes before boarding. Plus seats were really cramped. So, no not worth it for the slight difference of price they offer.

You wanted to play the game, but didn't care to lookup the rules.

Well, I didn't have a choice back then to fly ryanair, they were the only flight that flew from where I was to my destination. I just assumed that they followed the same rules as every single other airlines I had ever flown.

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by ghaff »

peteretep wrote: post #324
ghaff wrote: post #291

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I pretty much can't stand them personally--except for the fries and maybe a couple of breakfast items. But I readily admit I'm a bit of a foodie. I'm certainly not going to begrudge others who find them a good value or even, gasp, like them.

I would also identify as a foodie. But I don't always need a 12 course tasting menu, and sometimes a dollar cheeseburger with a mild and predictable taste is a good source of calories.

Fair enough. I just find McDonald's sort of ick. I'd rather (and am in a position to) spend a few bucks more to eat something I actually enjoy. And I'm happy to just skip an ick meal.

But that's not a value judgement. Just how I personally prefer to eat.

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by kuzimoto »

afcapel wrote: post #329
kuzimoto wrote: post #318

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How were those people living? Are they single people in their mid 20s with no significant other or kids? Are they making enough to put some towards retirement? I guess if you're willing to sacrifice some things it could work. You're definitely not raising a family of 3-4 in a nicer neighborhood with that amount.

The median annual household income worldwide is about 10k/year. 20k/year puts you in the 91st percentile globally for person income. So it's perfectly possible to live with that money, most people in the world do.

I figured we were talking mostly about US, so technically until you're a family of 3 you're not living in poverty, which seems pretty reasonable. It also probably greatly depends on where you live. Housing prices closer to major/wealthy cities are more expensive.

Having an income of 20k/year in US puts you at like 16th percentile.

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Post by tjmc »

downandout wrote: post #143
jdietrich wrote: post #125

Michael O'Leary being incredibly rude is a key part of Ryanair's branding. If you're paying £19 for a two hour flight, you'll always have the sneaking suspicion that the airline is skimping on maintenance. O'Leary makes it absolutely clear that they save money by treating their passengers like cattle. He carefully cultivates the image of a man who utterly despises his own customers, but is far too miserly to allow an…

He carefully cultivates the image of a man who utterly despises his own customers, but is far too miserly to allow an aircraft to crash. That image will keep them going right up until they have a fatal crash, at which point the press, the government, and victims’ attorneys will use every word he has ever said about being cheap to crucify him and the company. Given their volume of flights, a fatal crash is statistical…

> Given their volume of flights, a fatal crash is statistically likely to happen at some point.

Has Ryanair flown more flights than all the domestic and international commercial jet flights in Australian history? Because there has never been a crash of a commercial jet here despite several near misses.

Safety culture and training has more of a bearing than statistics.

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Post by DangitBobby »

foobarandgrill wrote: post #163
seem_2211 wrote: post #139

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Price, value and practical utility are not really correlated. A Rolex and a Timex will both tell you the time. An iPhone and a $129 Android will do mostly similar things. A Toyota Camry and a Porsche will both get you to work. But practical utility and value aren't necessarily the most important thing. Apple intuitively understood this, at a time when other computer companies didn't. Lots of people look at a Macbook…

>Lots of people look at a Macbook and see an overpriced computer that costs a few hundred dollars more than a similarly equipped PC, albeit in a pretty case. I was shopping for a dev laptop about a year or two ago, and it was more like double the price rather than just a few hundred dollars more.

Definitely. A new MacBook pro with 16GB RAM, a decently speedy 512 GB SSD, the basic display, dedicated graphics, and an 2.3 GHz 8 core i9 costs $2.8K [0].

An XPS 15 with 32GB RAM, a decently speedy 1TB SSD, the basic display, dedicated graphics, and a 5.0 GHz 8 core i9 costs like $2.3K [1].

I couldn't customize the XPS enough to do a direct comparison. But the XPS 15 with the almost the same specs as the MacBook other than having an i7 was about 1.6K.

• 0 https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/15-inch

• 1 https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/new-xps-15-lapt...

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by aianus »

Aeolun wrote: post #308
paulmd wrote: post #303

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Spoken like someone who can't comprehend living hand to mouth. Happiness is definitely a hockey-stick shaped curve, going from 1M to 10M is not going to make you happier, but someone who is making $100k is going to be far far happier than someone making $20k. The difference between scrabbling to pay your bills and keep the heat on, vs actually having some savings and free money for recreation, is absolutely massive.

I’m not so certain about that actually, I’ve certainly seen people making $20k that had more free money and recreation time than some people making $100k. Especially as regards recreation time. To be fair, making $20k was almost always a choice in those cases.

I strongly agree with this.

A lot of people are happy in college and they're almost all living on less than $24k a year despite working over 40h a week (although schoolwork is a lot more engaging than industry IMHO).

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