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MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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For everyone that hasn't seen it, reports are they've already decided to change the keyboard on forthcoming models. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20353148 Edit: added "reports are"

Is that anything more than a rumor yet?

According to macrumors the source of this rumor has been reliable.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

#93

For everyone that hasn't seen it, reports are they've already decided to change the keyboard on forthcoming models. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20353148 Edit: added "reports are"

To me the, the worst thing with MacBook keyboards is when keys start to fade out[1]. I really hope they could do something about it

[0] https://caio.ariede.life/macbook-blurred-keys/

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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post #10

> If Apple releases their new Macs with an identical keyboard, then I'm ditching Macs and will pick up a Microsoft Surface Book or something similar. Whatever it is, I'll make sure to pick a laptop that has a god damned functional keyboard. Same here, MBP keyboards are unbearable. Trying to develop on OSX has become a hassle. Gotta jump through hoops to get gdb to work. Windows with WSL on a Surface Book feels extrem…

Go give windows a try and report back. I've been using Windows for the past couple of weeks and, granted maybe I haven't really given it a chance, using it after using Macs for 10+ years is not great. Maybe developing on macOS has become a hassle (I don't see that, but sure), but doing everything on Windows is a hassle. Taking a screenshot. Opening the right file. Displaying UI at a reasonable scale . Think what you…

Eh, as someone who's primarily used Windows (and a bit of Linux with xfce) for my entire life I find Macs basically unusable (seriously how do I browse the file system). I think it's more of a question of familiarity than anything else.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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post #8

Switched to a thinkpad x1 carbon just over a month ago, coming from years of macbooks. I'm over the moon. The trackpad isn't as good, but all the things I use the trackpad for are easily replaced with keyboard shortcuts.

I don't get what people have with apple's trackpad. I once got some second hand macbook air or something for work, and it felt like sliding my finger on a fine grained sandpaper. A jarring experience that I didn't like.

Pretty much anything else I ever used was more pleasant than that.

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post #35

The worst thing is, the 2015 MBP keyboard was nearly perfect. The vast majority of the time I don't even use an external keyboard even when I am working at a desk and am plugged into monitor. It's one thing to fail at designing something because it is hard and you haven't figured it out yet. It's quite another to regress to incompetence on something you already perfected.

The 2015 MBP is great! I have a spare one stockpiled. I wish they would keep it basically as-is, replace one of the (generally unused) thunderbolt ports with a USB-C port, add their secure enclave T2 security chip, and update the CPU/chipset. Maybe even add FaceID...

Yeah, um, I’m 50/50 about the T2. I’ve found it quite easy to brick the mid 2018 mob.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

#97

It's funny, I resisted an upgrade until my 2015 MBP became unusable, in part because I dreaded the keyboard. I do miss physical function keys, but I actually like the more clacky & tactile butterfly keys. Maybe I'll feel differently once I finally manage to work a crumb underneath one of them.

I also enjoy the keyboard! I miss the clickiness when I use other keyboards.

I would be much happier without the touch bar, though.

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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I'm glad that others are voicing the same issues I'm experiencing. Sometimes I wonder if I'm taking crazy pills. My solution has been to place an Apple bluetooth keyboard -on top- of my 15" MBP keyboard and that seems to work pretty well, but wow, it shouldn't have come to this...

This has been a hugely reported upon issue, so much so that Apple has a whole extended warranty and keyboard replacement program in place.

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+...

Surprised that anyone has missed this, as it has been front-paged on HN dozens if not hundreds of time.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/keyboard-service-program-for...

Re: MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched when the surface book 1 came out (now on a surface book 2) but man I still miss the customizable trackpad gestures I had on my macbook pro. I don't recall the program I used but it allowed for gestures like three fingers with the index tapping to move to the next chrome tab to the left etc. I have been trying for years to replicate that in windows :(

Was it BetterTouchTool?

That made the TouchBar less annoying on my 2019 MBP
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