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exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Post by merb »

pedrocr wrote: post #33

I'll believe Microsoft loves Linux when I can install Microsoft Office in my desktop Linux machine. Everything else is marketing. Edit: to expand, the corporate world runs on Excel/PowerPoint/Outlook. Microsoft milks them on Windows/Office licensing and is very aggressive against organizations that try to do Linux deployments. They're a convicted monopolist that got away easily when at some point the option on the ta…

OT: I only need Outlook or at least a decent Groupware Client for EWS (EWS for Outlook Online Sync/the customer version)/office365. That does not have sync issues, etc. Bonus: if it can sync Contacts with Linphone. And I would pay for it after a 10days testing period. electron version is ok, but not preferred.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Post by Boulth »

WorldMaker wrote: post #13
gvb wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to John Gossman "Microsoft Distinguished Engineer & Linux Foundation Board Member" in a related announcement, Microsoft plans to contribute it to the Linux kernel: We also support the eventual inclusion of a Linux kernel with exFAT support in a future revision of the Open Invention Network’s Linux System Definition, where, once accepted, the code will benefit from the defensive patent commitments of OIN’s 3…

Most of the major Linux distributions are directly members or licensees of the OIN already. It looks like any distribution that isn't can get a license by filling out a form, no money needed and royalty-free. To my reading, the OIN is a "mutually assured destruction" organization for patents around Linux that owns some of the patents outright and basically tries to insure that if any member sues another member or lic…

The list definitely is long but I don't see Debian or Archlinux there: https://www.openinventionnetwork.com/community-of-licensees/

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Post by pwg »

tambourine_man wrote: post #30

OMG, I can't believe we finally have a cross platform read/write disk format. At last. No more Fuse. I just need to know when it will be available for my Raspberry Pi.

We already have one, it is just that few know we do:

Universal Disk Format (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format).

I can confirm it works on Linux, and works on Windows (at least W10). The wikipedia article indicates it works on newer MacOS'es, but I can't confirm that fact.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

elipsey wrote: post #36
wyldfire wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.... on FAT partitions

Sorry, dumb question. :) I guess I never noticed a problem because either I mostly use ext3/4, or I am so used to using legally dubious drivers that I forgot they were there. I mean, who ever gives you a FAT formatted disk? I don't have floppy drive anyway :p

Most flash drives and SD cards are still FAT formatted by default.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Post by moonbug »

elipsey wrote: post #36
wyldfire wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.... on FAT partitions

Sorry, dumb question. :) I guess I never noticed a problem because either I mostly use ext3/4, or I am so used to using legally dubious drivers that I forgot they were there. I mean, who ever gives you a FAT formatted disk? I don't have floppy drive anyway :p

SDCards, USB sticks...

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Post by etatoby »

pwg wrote: post #43
tambourine_man wrote: post #30

OMG, I can't believe we finally have a cross platform read/write disk format. At last. No more Fuse. I just need to know when it will be available for my Raspberry Pi.

We already have one, it is just that few know we do: Universal Disk Format ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format ). I can confirm it works on Linux, and works on Windows (at least W10). The wikipedia article indicates it works on newer MacOS'es, but I can't confirm that fact.

I've been using UDF formatted flash drives for a long time (10 years?) and they've been working on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X all this time.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Post by saidajigumi »

elipsey wrote: post #36
wyldfire wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.... on FAT partitions

Sorry, dumb question. :) I guess I never noticed a problem because either I mostly use ext3/4, or I am so used to using legally dubious drivers that I forgot they were there. I mean, who ever gives you a FAT formatted disk? I don't have floppy drive anyway :p

Cameras. High capacity removable flash media used by digital still and video cameras is often formatted as exFAT. Despite MS' licensing, FAT/FAT32/exFAT are essentially the "file systems of interchange" for removable flash media.

More info at: https://fossbytes.com/fat32-vs-ntfs-vs-exfat-difference-thre...

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Post by azinman2 »

elipsey wrote: post #36
wyldfire wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.... on FAT partitions

Sorry, dumb question. :) I guess I never noticed a problem because either I mostly use ext3/4, or I am so used to using legally dubious drivers that I forgot they were there. I mean, who ever gives you a FAT formatted disk? I don't have floppy drive anyway :p

USB flash disks are almost always exfat formatted.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Post by Keyframe »

sametmax wrote: post #29
The_rationalist wrote: post #21

Almost every months Microsoft make a more or less major gift to the open source community, this is beautiful. They are the new "benevolent" Google and it's no surprise they're now the number one open source contributor of the world.

Sure, they are not the top dog anymore. They can't get away with insulting people the way they used too. Business as usual.

They managed to overtake Apple’s market cap. Seems to me they’re quite a top dog still.
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